How To: AC Removal

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How To: AC Removal

Post by scneonchic » Sat Mar 17, 2007 7:17 pm

Items needed:
- Belt
- Haynes manual
- Serpentine belt removing tool (13mm)
- Various other tools


- Drain all freon from the system. I took mine to Goodyear Gemini and had them drain it for me since you aren’t supposed to let it in the atmosphere.

- Belt used is PN# 4668249AF (2001-2002 no option no ac acr belt)
Dealer price - $9.95 plus tax
I did some extra footwork to find out who else around here could get the belt as far as auto parts stores and this is what I discovered:
- Couldn’t find this belt or car listed as an order item or in stock item at Advance auto parts.
- Napa - $17.88 - PN# 25040440
- Auto Zone - $10.99 - PN# 445k4 (could be the same belt size you could get at AAP, but Id have to double check that)
- O’Reily’s couldn’t get the belt either

- Jack the car up. (In my case, we had to dig a hole, drive the car over it and then lower the jack under it to lift the car. This is when having a super low car is a bad thing.)

- Remove serpentine belt and install new belt.

- Release air pressure on all the lines by loosening the caps.

- Unhook the AC hose in front of the car. It runs above and then under the radiator and attaches to the compressor on the right side.

- Compressor is right behind the radiator. 4 bolts hold it on. All of them use a 13mm socket. The bolts are pretty long, but you shouldn’t have an issue getting to them like I did. (My car was in a minor front end collision when I got it, unbeknownst to me when I got it. I didn’t discover till we went to remove the compressor that the bracket for the radiator was bent back, preventing us from getting to the last inside bolt on the compressor. Because of this the only way I can get to that bolt on mine is to remove the radiator. This is something I haven’t done yet, but I need to. All aspects of my AC system are out except for the compressor. You shouldn’t have this problem.)

- Unhook the rest of the lines from the compressor and the ones from the radiator and remove. Unplug connector on compressor and remove compressor.

- Unhook the AC lines at the firewall. I am going to make a block off plate to put over this area since I didn’t remove the block the lines hook into. That way, I can use it again if I ever put the AC back in. This will keep the dust and grime out of it. I’m sure there is a way to remove the block itself, but I did not look that part up. There is also a plug connector hooked back near the firewall, make sure you unplug that also.

- Unhook lines from both places on the drier/accumulator. The drier/accumulator should lift out of ‘grommet’ by windshield washer fluid bottle. It took a lot of figuring out and twisting to get the lines from the drier/accumulator to the fire wall out of the engine bay because of the motor mount and the strut bar. It may be easier to remove the strut bar, if your car has one.

- Remove the bottom section of lines from the drier/accumulator. These are a lot easier to remove than the upper lines.

- Make sure you tape off any places in the lines, firewall (where the block off plate is that I mentioned I was going to install), drier/accumulator, compressor, and hoses so that no air or dust gets inside them. This could cause a problem when the parts are used later if anything gets in them that shouldn’t be there.


**NOTE**
This was done on a 2000-2001 Plymouth Neon. From what I have read 2003-2005 model neons have a slightly different set up with the drier/accumulator near the firewall and not by the left fender and washer fluid reservoir. 2000-2002 models use a drier/accumulator and 2003-2005 models use a condenser w/ orifice tube. That is the only difference I’ve read about the AC systems in the two “generations” of 2nd gens.

any questions...ask here or PM me

this was my first write up, so hopefully I made it understandable :lol:

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What it took to jack the car up :lol:

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AFTER:
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compressor
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firewall
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where upper hose was
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where accumulator was
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Post by SlvrACR » Sat Mar 17, 2007 7:29 pm

4040440 PS no AC
4040420 PS no AC with UDP
Goodyear Gatorback numbers

If you want a dash without AC knobs I have one in the for sale forum
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Re: How To: AC Removal

Post by daaboots » Sat Mar 17, 2007 7:55 pm

scneonchic wrote:Drain all freon from the system. I took mine to Goodyear Gemini and had them drain it for me since you aren’t supposed to let it in the atmosphere.
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Post by kc2005ptgt » Sat Mar 17, 2007 10:29 pm

SlvrACR wrote:4040440 PS no AC
4040420 PS no AC with UDP
Goodyear Gatorback numbers

If you want a dash without AC knobs I have one in the for sale forum
thanks man!! Also, I want that dash with no ac, just cant send it paypal :(
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Post by opyr8yr » Mon Mar 19, 2007 3:45 am

Someone want to send me theirs? I'll pay for shipping. Is it even possible to just install it on a non A/C car?

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Post by BlackRoseRacing » Mon Mar 19, 2007 4:39 am

Great write up chic :)
Now add some pics... :D
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Post by scneonchic » Mon Mar 19, 2007 6:43 pm

Thanks for adding those PN#'s slvr...Ill add them to the original post.

Pictures will come as soon as I get the camera back, which will hopefully be w/in the next couple of weeks.

Id love to have one of those No AC panels...but mine is painted, and its hard to match that color. maybe one day, kc should get it :)

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Post by scneonchic » Sun Mar 25, 2007 8:56 pm

bump...added pictures!

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Post by quicksilvr » Sun Mar 25, 2007 9:02 pm

Nicely done! :) As soon as my car is no longer my daily driver, the AC is definately coming out.
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Post by 01WhiteNe0n » Sun Mar 25, 2007 11:50 pm

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Post by kc2005ptgt » Mon Mar 26, 2007 12:52 pm

01WhiteNe0n wrote:Nice how to ...
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she is already :shock: :lol: ;) :thumbup:

Great write up - now whenever I have some time, I am gonna do this. :lol:
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Post by scneonchic » Mon Mar 26, 2007 7:23 pm

:lol:

thanks for the complement...but really, the weather will be really hot this summer, but thas what I have ac in the volvo for :lol:

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Post by loko498 » Sun May 27, 2007 9:39 am

Does the radiator have to be removed to get the AC Compressor out?
I have 2 get my AC compressor out because the previous owner broke the bolt holding the line in that's closer to the front of the car.
Maybe the AC compressor is no good, that may be why the bolt is broke because of an attempt to change it their self so just 2 be sure ill install a new or used one.

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Post by kc2005ptgt » Sun May 27, 2007 12:11 pm

I would not think so, but it may be easier for you since a bolt is broke??? I dunno, but it can be removed from the bottom with not much problem.
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Post by BlackRoseRacing » Mon May 28, 2007 5:37 am

The AC compressor is easy to remove once the AC lines ontop are disconnected...
4 13mm bolts hold the compressor to the mounting plate, once those are removed the compressor drops right out the bottom. I removed all my AC components also since my AC compressor siezed on me....

AC in a Non-AC car - NO, you do not have a evaporator inside of your heater box so you cant just plug this stuff on and make it work...

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Post by loko498 » Sun Jun 03, 2007 3:12 pm

BlackRoseRacing wrote:The AC compressor is easy to remove once the AC lines ontop are disconnected...
4 13mm bolts hold the compressor to the mounting plate, once those are removed the compressor drops right out the bottom. I removed all my AC components also since my AC compressor siezed on me....
Looks like mine got hit in the front passenger side also because the bracket holding the radiator is crumbled up and kinda pushed up close towards the a/c compressor.
I'm probablly gonna have to use a come-a-long to pull the front up a lil away from the compressor so I can get it out from the bottom without taking out the radiator.

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Post by scneonchic » Sun Jun 03, 2007 4:10 pm

whats a 'come-a-long'?

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Post by loko498 » Sun Jun 03, 2007 4:44 pm

scneonchic wrote:whats a 'come-a-long'?
Its used to pull things.
You attatch one end to a fixed object and the other end to whatever you want to pull and it has a handle to ratchet and pull the other end.
In this case, one end to lets say a telephone pole and the other to the bottom bent part of my car.
I hope that explained it.

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Post by BlackRoseRacing » Mon Jun 04, 2007 6:14 am

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Ratcheting come along.....
Ok, now lets get back to the topic please :)

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Post by asanti » Tue Jun 05, 2007 4:37 pm

Nice write up there! I have 2 quick questions though:

1) has anyone figured out how to remove the aluminum(?) block from the firewall?

2) Does that 4040420 belt fit OK with an AF/X UDP? (Dayco has an almost exact part # 5040420, that's supposed to work with the MPx UDP.)

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Post by fastloudfzr » Sun Jun 10, 2007 11:09 am

will not work if you have an underdrive pully just found out. not sure what the pn is for the belt if you have udp.
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Post by SlvrACR » Mon Jul 16, 2007 5:07 pm

I have an Unorthodox UDP and i use
4040320 Alt
4040420 PS no AC
Goodyear Gatorback numbers
Had them on for a year without problems
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Post by mr_mopar_neon » Wed Jan 07, 2009 2:24 pm

iv been thinking about doing this but 2 things one just to make sore am not going to lose my heater because i really need it and two what can you do if you do have a race under drive pully???
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Post by occasional demons » Wed Jan 07, 2009 3:08 pm

No you will not lose the heat part of the HVAC. For finding a belt size: viewtopic.php?t=37964

But finding one in the length you need might be a challenge. Or not.
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Post by neonslg09 » Wed Dec 23, 2009 10:59 pm

Going to be doing this once Freon has been drained. Any heads up I should do besides whats been stated?

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Post by mr_mopar_neon » Sat Dec 26, 2009 2:12 pm

just take your time getting the pipes out there was so meany times i could of just raged them out or cut them but you will get them out in one peaces sooner or latter
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Post by neonslg09 » Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:42 pm

25040440

That is the power-steering no a/c belt yes?

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Post by Danteneon » Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:53 pm

Yes. The root # is 40440. The first numbers vary depending on who makes them.
If I could just figure out how to meld the Outback and the Neon into one car...

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Post by neonslg09 » Thu Jan 21, 2010 2:02 pm

Thanks John.

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