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Post: #1   PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2014 6:41 pm    Post subject: CAT options....time to do exhaust? Reply with quote

Hey guys...so im throwing a P0420....CAT issues...so what are my options regarding power gains for my 2001 SE? Should i get a regular brand cat or switch to a magnaflow cat?

Also, which is overall better, a weld in or a bolt on?

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Post: #2   PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2014 3:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you could find an OE cat in good shape, I'd go that route. It's easiest as far as bolt-on affairs. Aftermarket ones are all going to need welded in (for the most part) and your sensor still may be finicky with some of the readings.
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Post: #3   PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2014 4:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://forum.2gn.org/viewtopic.php?t=44915

If you go with a weld in unit, get a weld in flex joint with a 2.5" minimum ID, and cut the factory flex joint off.

http://forum.2gn.org/viewtopic.php?t=66375


Also, for information's sake, it is illegal to install a used cat from another same, or different car. You probably won't find one in a JY partially because of this. They cannot sell you one. The value of the platinum is likely the real reason.
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Post: #4   PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2014 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good information OD. I knew JYs don't sell them, but never knew why. Or that there was a law on used cats. Heavily enforced, eh Laughing
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Well unless the cat is drastically different looking than what should be on there, and it passes a sniffer test, who is going to know?

I'd like to see an inspector prove the thing was from a different car, especially if it was from the same model and year.

There are probably not a lot of shops that will risk the fines doing it, so it is mainly a backyard thing, so it's kinda tough to regulate...
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Post: #6   PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2014 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

occasional demons wrote:
http://forum.2gn.org/viewtopic.php?t=44915

If you go with a weld in unit, get a weld in flex joint with a 2.5" minimum ID, and cut the factory flex joint off.

http://forum.2gn.org/viewtopic.php?t=66375


Also, for information's sake, it is illegal to install a used cat from another same, or different car. You probably won't find one in a JY partially because of this. They cannot sell you one. The value of the platinum is likely the real reason.



So what should i replace that flex joint with? just another pipe? Also that high flow cat, it has an O2 sensor port yes?
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Post: #7   PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 6:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Replace it with a weld in flex joint.



The magnaflow was a direct fit, so yes it had the 1/2 o2 bung.
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Post: #8   PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2014 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

occasional demons wrote:
Replace it with a weld in flex joint.



The magnaflow was a direct fit, so yes it had the 1/2 o2 bung.




how does that flex joint go on to replace the origional one? I asked my mechanic if he could do that and he said no. Should i just pull one off a junker and put it on to replace it?

Pictures of how it would be welded on would be GREATLY appreciated
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Post: #9   PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2014 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why he said no I can't tell you, but what pictures do you need? Replace the existing flex joint with a new one. It's pretty self-explanatory once you look at the old one or pull the old cat off.
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Post: #10   PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2014 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nathan9790 wrote:
occasional demons wrote:
Replace it with a weld in flex joint.



The magnaflow was a direct fit, so yes it had the 1/2 o2 bung.

how does that flex joint go on to replace the origional one? I asked my mechanic if he could do that and he said no. Should i just pull one off a junker and put it on to replace it?

Pictures of how it would be welded on would be GREATLY appreciated

Try a muffler shop ... a good one has experience fabricating custom exhaust, and expert welders ... this isn't general mechanic work.
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Post: #11   PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2014 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm no Legal Larry or Ethical Earl over here, and I WILL sell you a used OEM cat with no warrantee written or implied. PM me if you're interested.
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