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Post: #1   PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 8:33 am    Post subject: Vent selector knob Reply with quote

Hello all, for some reason today when i went to turn my vent knob to defog, it snapped back to the center position!? it now feels like its spring loaded and the air only comes out of the front vents. this is fine for now, but i will need to have it blow on the windscreen during the winter. any suggestions on how to fix it? Any and all help will be very appreciated. Thanks Guys
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Post: #2   PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is the last knob on recirculate, or outside air? On recirculate, it will block out the defrost.
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Post: #3   PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think its stuck on recirc,
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Post: #4   PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

has anyone been behind those knobs? does anyone have any insight?
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Post: #5   PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just remove the radio bezel and look behind it
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Post: #6   PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a lock out in the gearing. You may need to pull the bezel off and remove the lock out part.

http://forum.2gn.org/viewtopic.php?t=60029


The metal bar that goes across the bottom I believe is what slides over and locks out defrost on recirculate.

From: http://forum.2gn.org/viewtopic.php?t=21305

IIRC, I removed that so I could use recirculate on subzero mornings to get the windshield thawing faster. You just have to move it to outside air, or the windows will fog up.

http://forum.2gn.org/viewtopic.php?t=37976
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Post: #7   PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

occasional demons wrote:

IIRC, I removed that so I could use recirculate on subzero mornings to get the windshield thawing faster. You just have to move it to outside air, or the windows will fog up.


That's..genius...why didn't i do this last winter when it was colder than a frogs ass outside?
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Post: #8   PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

so, you think its the metal bar thats causing the vent knob to snap back to the center position? i can take it apart tonight. im more concerned with being able to choose which vents to move air through, and less concerned with the recirc/outside air knob at this time. im also an all around car noob, sinice this is my first car, but im not afraid to take things apart and try to fix them myself.
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Post: #9   PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is possible, but the only way to really know what's going on is to have a look. You basically need a #2 phillips screwdriver to get everything apart.

I use the bezel to pop the knobs off, but they will go flying. Or you can pull them off by hand, but they generally take a good grip.

Debris may have just gotten into the gears, who knows...
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Post: #10   PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok, while on break at work i popped the front bezel off and took a peek behind the knobs. nothing looked broken and nothing was obviously stopping the knobs from turning. i could see the cable connected to the knob, but i still saw nothing obviously wrong/broken. when i get home i will remove the whole white part and take a closer look. is there anything that i need to be aware of before pulling it out? i can also take and post pics if that will help.
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Post: #11   PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 8:33 am    Post subject: SOLVED!! Reply with quote

so, upon a closer inspection, i saw that the sheilding around the cable came out of a clip. i opened the clip ( it releases from under the white plastic part), moved the knob into the left most position, and put the sheilding back under the clip . vents now change as they should.





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Post: #12   PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

THANKS for posting those "tech photos" !!!
They're worth a thousand words. Very Happy

I.I.R.C., the old MoPars had a similar setup.
Problem with those, is that once the clips were removed for servicing (replacing heater cores, etc.), it was virtually impossible to get them to stay in place afterward.

I suppose a drop of contact cement or something similar, applied between the cable and clip, might help 'anchor' it into place, so it doesn't slip out again.



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Post: #13   PostPosted: Sun Dec 20, 2015 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know this is an old topic, but I came up with one helpful hint that I thought I would pass along.

First, thanks for the detailed photos, I had exactly this problem with my Neon. However, I found that when I tried to replace the cable sleeve under the clamp, the clamp just wasn't gripping tightly enough and the sheath would keep slipping out.

My hack was to clip about 1/2 inch of emory board (nail file board) and use pliers to bend it into roughly a semi circle. I set this on the plastic, set the cable on top of that, and then snapped the clip down.

The extra thickness helps the clip get a good squeeze and the roughness of the board grips both the cable sheath and the plastic.

Hopefully, this will be a useful addition to this post.


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Post: #14   PostPosted: Sun Dec 20, 2015 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lol, I just used an epoxy and glued the cable to the clip.
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Post: #15   PostPosted: Sun Dec 20, 2015 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I tried that, I would manage to glue myself to the car.
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Post: #16   PostPosted: Sun Dec 20, 2015 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then you would be the typical neon owner. Except we are mentally glued to them. Laughing
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Post: #17   PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ChetNubbler wrote:
so, you think its the metal bar thats causing the vent knob to snap back to the center position ? i can take it apart tonight paris cdg transfer . im more concerned with being able to choose which vents to move air through, and less concerned with the recirc/outside air knob at this time. im also an all around car noob, sinice this is my first car, but im not afraid to take things apart and try to fix them myself.


to call on the help of a specialist is a better solution if it is your first car
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