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Post: #1   PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2016 9:20 am    Post subject: Timing belt kit Reply with quote

Hello guys,
I have a 2005 Dodge Neon SXT and want to do a timing belt and water pump change. What is the correct kit with gaskets for the car and is the tensioner hydraulic or mechanical?

please help;

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Post: #2   PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2016 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mechanical

GATES TCKWP245A


FWIW, the last Gates water pump I used, developed a leak around 30,000 miles. I replaced it with a Mopar water pump.

The GMB water pump I used in my '01 has lasted nearly 94,000 miles without issue. I bought the belt and tensioner from the local Dodge dealer, and the water pump from Summit racing back in 2006(?)

Buying the parts separately vs the gates kit will cost more, but might be the better option if the water pump doesn't last. I believe thomas_w has also had failures with Gates water pumps.
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Post: #3   PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think my gates water pump may be bad as well, started making noise a few weeks after install. Didn't know others were having issues as well.
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Post: #4   PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope they haven't cheapened these things out. I used the whole Gates kit when I was at about 110k miles. I'm at 190k now with no problems.
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Post: #5   PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Donkeypuncher wrote:
I think my gates water pump may be bad as well, started making noise a few weeks after install. Didn't know others were having issues as well.


Mine was quiet, it just began with a slow drip, and then to where it would leave a decent puddle overnight. I didn't want to think it was the water pump, but I couldn't see any coolant anywhere above it, or at the inlet tube.

Finally I pulled the crank pulley and lower cover, and for sure, it was coming from the weep hole plain as day. cussing

FWIW, it was a 2.4 SRT replacement unit. I put a Mopar SRT pump in it's place. The Mopar has more rotating mass (cast iron vane assy vs plastic vane assy), but if it doesn't fail for 105,000 miles, I'll be happy.

I imagine they use the same pulley, bearings, and seals for all the 2.0/2.4 water pumps.
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Post: #6   PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 5:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Based on the recent 'feedback' about Gates water pumps from Bill and others here on the board.... It seems that Gates has 'cheapened out'. Sad I would avoid them until further notice.
All the water pumps I have used on my recent Timing Belt jobs, have been 'other' brands, and so far, I have not had any issues.

I try to 'source' USA-Made pumps wherever possible. (Although my last new water pump purchased through Rock Auto, was Made in China). Sad I wish they would list the country of origin.
So far, I have not had any issues with that one.... And I even did the 'water pump modification' on it, and removed every other vane.
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Post: #7   PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 5:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

occasional demons wrote:
FWIW, it was a 2.4 SRT replacement unit. I put a Mopar SRT pump in it's place.


Was this on a DOHC? If the SRT pump is the same as it is on a SOHC, I'll be using the SRT pump for sure next time!
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Post: #8   PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 6:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jonnymopar wrote:
occasional demons wrote:
FWIW, it was a 2.4 SRT replacement unit. I put a Mopar SRT pump in it's place.


Was this on a DOHC? If the SRT pump is the same as it is on a SOHC, I'll be using the SRT pump for sure next time!



N/A 2.4. I used the SRT 4 timing covers, etc vs the Stratus stuff, mainly due to the covers being busted up. I just kept everything else SRT for consistency.

The SRT pump has the closed vanes for more efficiency.

Similar to this:


Versus this:


I don't believe the 2.0's had different water pumps for SOHC or DOHC. It was the same block, so....
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Post: #9   PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crap that's right, you're 2.4-swapped. I know exactly what the SRT pump looks like. The block and crank are the only parts in my Daytona that weren't replaced with brand new OEM SRT parts when I built it. I was surprised at how kick-ass the water pump looked versus the 2.2/2.5 units I'd seen.
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