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EBAY underdrive pulley review

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Post: #121   PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My UDP is just like yours. Both of them are 5 grooves. Tam had the K4 numbers that I posted next his pulley (same as mine) and there was an extra groove on each spot. The belts weren't wide enough.

I'll be safe with the 4K numbers? Did you leave the inside or outside groove open?
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Post: #122   PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I used the K4 500 and 320. I think the SRT pulley(s) may be 5 groove, at least one, prolly the PS/AC belt, since the Ebay ones have the extra groove on the outer pulley.



I really don't understand why the PS/AC needed an extra rib/groove on SRT's. I would have thought the alternator being a higher output would have had an extra rib. But then the PS/AC would need to be spaced out a bit more, and the dampers would not be universal between the 2.0 and 2.4. Oh, that's right, production costs. Fuck function. Laughing


So with that pulley, the smaller part being a 5-groove piece, did your K4 belts still work fine? I bought those same belts, but it bothers me that there'll be an extra groove showing on the pulley.
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Post: #123   PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, I missed your reply.

That is actually danman132x's pulley from his how to thread. The belt will go to the inside edge, I believe. Your PS/AC will determine the position. Unless you have the SRT/2.4, the PS/AC will be the 4 rib style. The AZ belts worked fine. They didn't look as good as the oem , but they didn't give me any problems. I had run it to the rev limit, and they never jumped/made noises, etc. I have since returned to the original pulley. I got tired of the '02 CEL.
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Post: #124   PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alright. As I was sitting here, I was thinking that I would just line the belt up with A/C. I mean, it can only fit one way lol.

I don't drive very hard, and when I do it's like once every few weeks, if that. I've never really gotten codes with my car, and I don't think I'll drive my car hard enough to even get the code to pop up for a second. Either way, I think it may be worth the slight gains simply because of how cheap it was for the entire setup and because at 160k I feel like it's a perfectly good time to upgrade, too.
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Post: #125   PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is mainly just the '02 PCMs that will give a misfire code. They set the crank signal reading to hyper kill. '00-'01 are not as touchy, and NGC has the sensor wheel on the more stable flywheel end.
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Post: #126   PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alright. Sort of makes me hesitant that you sent yours back, but I didn't know you had an '02 PCM. As long as yours worked and was nice and tight with these belts, I'll be fine. Thank you sir! thumbup
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Post: #127   PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very Happy It's more along the lines of it's sitting in my garage.

Someday I will get around to cleaning it up and selling it. Unless I happen to find another 2.0/2.4 to put it on.

Yeah, I have the '02 R/T pcm. That is the one drawback.
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Post: #128   PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh ok, that makes more sense. I know there is currently an AFX computer for sale on here, but for another $200 I'd eventually go with MS.

So you just yanked it because the "feel" it gave wasn't worth the code you got? I'm also curious what size this thing is in comparison to the MPx one.
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Post: #129   PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AFAIK, they are the same diameter.

I really couldn't tell much difference between the OEM dampner and the UDP. But I also intalled a new clutch, with a SPEC billet steel flywheel that is a little heavier than the OEM, yet it still seems to rev quicker. IDK if the weight is more to the center, making the rotating mass easier to spin, or just exactly why it does seem like a lighter flywheel. That might be why I couldn't see much change with the UDP.

It just got to the point that the P0302 or P0300 code was happening at increasingly lower RPM's. I have not had any codes since putting the oem pulley back.
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Post: #130   PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fair enough. Do what you gotta mang. I think the eBay pully is worth what it costs then. If it's that close the MPx one, then the only difference between the two is likely to be weight. For a budget build, if I feel any difference I'll be extremely satisfied.
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Post: #131   PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The main benefit is the reduced speed/parasitic drag from the driven accessories. The weight, I doubt really makes much difference. It is so close to the center of rotation, and only a difference of ounces, if that.

It's a far cry from the comparison of 17" wheels vs 14" wheels, in rotating mass/distance from centerline.
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Post: #132   PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I feel ya. I just know that UDPs tend to get rave reviews, but I've been weary of "performance" mods for several years now. Thanks to your confirmation, and some shipping errors, I'm DEF installing a UDP with some other upgrades Smile
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Post: #133   PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorry to pull this thread out of the cold, dead ground...

but someone made a comment about the color rubbing off on the red and blue under drive pulleys..

can anybody else confirm this?
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