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Post: #1   PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 4:22 am    Post subject: What are these? Reply with quote



I've noticed them before, but never really knew what they were. And the reason I'm asking is because my rear passenger tire doesn't have one, but the other 3 do.
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Post: #2   PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 4:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wheel weights. For balancing.
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Post: #3   PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 5:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And the wrong kind at that. They should be using coated weight or that will corrode the wheel finish.
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Post: #4   PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 6:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

and dont worry if one wheel doesnt have one, it just means it is perfectly balanced. On the other hand if you knew it was on there before and now it doesnt, that means it fell off and it will need to be rebalanced.
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Post: #5   PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 6:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And the wrong kind at that. They should be using coated weight or that will corrode the wheel finish.


some shops dont care what type they use.




Next time whether it be a nice set of wheels or just stock wheels ask them to use sticky weights. they go inside your rim and are better than the ones outside of the rim.
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Post: #6   PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, sticky weights are better, and nicer.

They will probably charge extra though.
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Post: #7   PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If they charge more then you went to a shitty shop. We charge the same no matter what weights we use. The sticky weights are actually cheaper for us just takes an extra min or two the balance them
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Post: #8   PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the wheel-tire is balanced it won't matter which type they use I guess. I used to have the clip one and now using the stick one. No difference at all.
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Post: #9   PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

true but if u end up shelling out big bucks for a nice set or rims u dont want the weights to be visible.
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Post: #10   PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They can also just put clip-on weights on the back side of the wheel...
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Post: #11   PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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They can also just put clip-on weights on the back side of the wheel...


They do that too. If you look, you have weights on the front and back of wheels normally, not always the outside.

Sticky weights are the way to go, always. I won't allow my wheels to be balanced any other way. And mine are just stock PT wheels!
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Post: #12   PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't know this thread was going to get so many comments. I think the next time I get my wheels messed with, I'll get these so called "sticky weights" Laughing

Thanks for the info guys.
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Post: #13   PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just have a shop static ballance the wheel
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Post: #14   PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

^Static balancing is just the process used to measure the runout/balance, it doesn't have anything to do with what kind of weights you use.

The sticky weights are much better, since they do no damage to the wheel/tire and can be hidden for cosmetic purposes.

I didn't know wheel balancing was such a misunderstood process. Shocked
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Post: #15   PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a shop put just clip-on weights on the backside of the wheel. I wasn't too excited about it at first, but thinking about it, there are no weights visible period. Sticky ones are good, but depending on the wheel, you still see them. Plus, that adhesive is a bitch to get off when the weights get removed.
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Post: #16   PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would think clip on weights on the back side of the wheel would be best, especially when people are using tires that last 10,000-15,000 miles. That glue is a bitch to get off.
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Post: #17   PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A static balance is not as good as a dynamic balance. Static balancing a tire only eliminates or reduces the vertical travel or "hop" of a tire. While Dynamic balancing counteracts vertical and horizontal "side to side wobbling" travel.



You can static balance a tire and wheel assembly but you may still have slight vibrations. Dynamic balancing is greatly superior. At work we normally only static balance large truck tires. Some BFG A/Ts for example call for 4 or more ounces on each side. Now to do this I would have to fill almost a 1/4 of the rim flange with weight. As you can imagine this looks like crap. Also with a large mud tire the driver would hardly notice a difference between the two different methods of balancing.

Bottom line, Deal with the looks or have the shop clip weight the back and tape weight the front. This hides the weights and still gives you a dynamic balance.

Also if you really want to be anal they used the wrong style weights on the neon wheel. They used an MC weight when they should have used an LH style weight because the neon and most Chrysler wheels have a different taper on the flanges.
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Post: #18   PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

when i painted my wheels i took them off and never had them rebalanced. i know its off topic but could this be why im getting a crazy vibration in the front right suspension while driving?
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Post: #19   PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL, quite possibly. The paint added more weight to the wheel/tire, so that could be throwing it off even more.
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Post: #20   PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 3:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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when i painted my wheels i took them off and never had them rebalanced. i know its off topic but could this be why im getting a crazy vibration in the front right suspension while driving?



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Post: #21   PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lameeeee.....haha oh well looks like im getting them balanced then soon. im tired of that noise
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