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Post: #1   PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:56 pm    Post subject: Shift....NOW Reply with quote

Was wondering what's the ideal RPM range to shift at. I swapped to a 5spd awhile back, and hot wired the neutral safety switch to I could run the manual ECU. I recently took it to about 6800 and boy it seemed sooo much quicker [in my n/a neon lolz]

Is this normal? As in the higher rev's? I thought there was a rev limit, but maybe I was mistaken.


So with that;

Take off?
Thru the gears?


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Post: #2   PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is always a rev limit.
Stock cam? HP takes a nose dive right around 6000. Shift right after that.
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Post: #3   PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Over 9000! Razz
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Post: #4   PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MTX rpm cut is supposed to be 6750 for an unmodified pcm. ATX is 6000, IIRC. The R/T is 6780 or some undetectable difference using the factory tach. My R/T pcm appears to be at the 6750 mark, for what it's worth.
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Post: #5   PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine tops out at 6750, I can vouch for it on a number of occasions!

Like Jeff said, shift around 6K where power falls off if you're looking to go fast. For every day shifting, I like 3K, sometimes as high as 4K if I need a little umph. The power band is somewhat small on these cars; starts around 3500 and pulls until 6000 ish. For economy driving, shift around 2500. Anything lower and you'll likely bog with any attempt at acceleration.
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Post: #6   PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hit 7600 the other day :shrugs:
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Post: #7   PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I hit 7600 the other day :shrugs:


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Yeah my 2gn the tach would get wierd and sometimes like show 6800 but its 6750 i believe ive tapped off it as well as just hit it plenty of times i shifted around 6400 -6600 try there since you have some decent bolt ons
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Post: #8   PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As can I but I choose not to.
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Post: #9   PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JeffB#2 wrote:
There is always a rev limit.
Stock cam? HP takes a nose dive right around 6000. Shift right after that.



It seems to drop at 6000, but gains back at 6400. Stock internals, full bolt on's minus a UDP.

When I shift at 6000 into second it seems to bog? [lose power] then we I hit 5k it picks back up.
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Post: #10   PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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JeffB#2 wrote:
There is always a rev limit.
Stock cam? HP takes a nose dive right around 6000. Shift right after that.



It seems to drop at 6000, but gains back at 6400. Stock internals, full bolt on's minus a UDP.

When I shift at 6000 into second it seems to bog? [lose power] then we I hit 5k it picks back up.


dont drop the clutch and it wont bog.
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Post: #11   PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you talking about WOT shifting?
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Post: #12   PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think he's saying don't miss-shift.

I hit 7600 the other day WITHOUT EVEN REACHING REDLINE...is what I was implying...
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Post: #13   PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can shift out of 1st as high as you can, but 2nd or 3rd shift around 6300. The ECU will rev to 6750, but sometimes the momentum will carry it past that.
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Post: #14   PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

good to know...i'll try this out this friday and let you know how it worked out. I've been wondering this same thing.
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Post: #15   PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You can shift out of 1st as high as you can, but 2nd or 3rd shift around 6300. The ECU will rev to 6750, but sometimes the momentum will carry it past that.


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Post: #16   PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, I can hold it till it shuts down, shift into 2nd, let the clutch back out, and chirp the tires. Inertia is a beautiful thing.
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Yep, I can hold it till it shuts down, shift into 2nd, let the clutch back out, and chirp the tires. Inertia is a beautiful thing.


I always had an issue with my car though. WOT shifting into 2nd, I'm shifting faster than the car is coming off the rev limiter, so it bogs for a split second, and then comes back onto power.
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Post: #18   PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my SRT-4 I shift at around 5500 rpms.. any higher and it doesn't really pull as hard.
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Post: #19   PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I shift at like 2800.
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Red Car: 6-65k
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Post: #21   PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Red Car: 6-65k
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Jesus. Such a broad range. I thought S2Ks revved high
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Post: #22   PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When the red car wants to rev that bitch revs ROFL
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Post: #23   PostPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I would say shift right around 6k. It's supposed to higher, but typically you lose some power around 6k. You might try 6,400 or 6,700 when you're not RACING, but I would play it a little safe. Especially if you haven't been dragging much.
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Post: #24   PostPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Especially with the 3.55 shift as high as you can. Even though power starts to drop off, you'll still be making more power than at the lower rpm after you shift.
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bring it past redline then shift Smile i kid i kid
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