What will it take to beat the average Ricer at the track?

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What will it take to beat the average Ricer at the track?

Post by 03_neoviper » Tue Jul 19, 2011 7:03 pm

I was curious on what it would take for my se atx to beat the normal ricer crowd at my local track? would my only real option be to boost my 2.0 or to swap in a 2.4 n/a (dont want srt 4 motor) ?

thanks guys Im just curious on what I should do
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Post by JeffM » Tue Jul 19, 2011 7:09 pm

Well, stock atx would leave you in the 18's in the 1/4.

Swapping to a manual would drop it down to mid 16's.

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Post by 03_neoviper » Tue Jul 19, 2011 7:11 pm

I know it would take alot to get a manual swap done ... but atx is consistant at being slow . I have a atx focus sedan running low 17s stock
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Post by JeffM » Tue Jul 19, 2011 7:15 pm

Well, you could do what everyone else does: intake, exhaust, cams, and such. I wouldn't expect it to work miracles though. You're still bound to an ATX.

Or just say fuck it and use a 50 shot of nitrous.
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Post by 03_neoviper » Tue Jul 19, 2011 7:21 pm

I like the second Option haha . DO you think a built 2.4 NA with a megasquirt would net me better times?
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Post by JeffM » Tue Jul 19, 2011 7:25 pm

Of course it would. I wouldn't know exact numbers, but a 2.4, coupled with M/S, is a good competitor. It's also completely badass.
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Post by 03_neoviper » Tue Jul 19, 2011 7:32 pm

haha well I know Id still be limited by the atx shift pressures and shift points even with a megasquirt ... but the question would be ....will it beat a honduh?
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Post by Marmelade Boy » Tue Jul 19, 2011 7:37 pm

03_neoviper wrote:haha well I know Id still be limited by the atx shift pressures and shift points even with a megasquirt ... but the question would be ....will it beat a honduh?
My guess would be with the little stuff, like exaust, intake, and maybe even cams. it should. If not run about the same. If you had the money and time, a Turbo and MS with a good tune should beat them all day. Of course the Mtx would do wonders as well. I wouldn't even recommend putting that much power to a stock Atx.
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Post by synviper » Tue Jul 19, 2011 7:42 pm

If you do a 2.4 na swap and have the motor out why wouldn't you just swap out the trans while your at it. I know first gen guys with n/a 2.4 with boltons can get to low 14s.
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Post by 03_neoviper » Tue Jul 19, 2011 7:48 pm

well Im still learning alot about my neon as its just sitting in my driveway with no issues and not eating anything .

I had a different idea . If I understand correctly I could do a 2.4 NA swap (megasquirt) with a 2000 31Th atx (requires no TCM hydraulically controlled) ditching the ECM limits and the TCM limits . I know the 31th has alot of aftermarket support also .

I am not against a full mtx swap but sourcing parts and Knowledgeable people are hard to come by around here
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Post by racer12306 » Tue Jul 19, 2011 8:42 pm

Depends on if it's an autozone ricer or a ricer with boost.

Unless you really load them up you aren't going to get anywhere with an auto.


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Post by 03_neoviper » Tue Jul 19, 2011 10:01 pm

I would be running street bracket the majority of the time but want to pull good times for grudge racing and some local heads up shows
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Post by LowNSlow » Tue Jul 19, 2011 10:04 pm

I'm guessing we can lock this up since you have another thread pertaining to what you want to do engine wise and questions.
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