2GN.ORG 2GN.ORG
The best source for the Second Generation Neon - Period.
 
 Watched TopicsWatched Topics   FAQFAQ   RulesBoard Rules   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   LinksLinks  :: Register
 ProfileProfile   GarageGarage   1/4 Mile Table1/4 Mile Table   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

went to the track


 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    2GN.ORG Forum Index -> Drag Racing
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
7654800neon
2GN Registrant


Age: 31
Joined: 28 Mar 2012
Posts: 145
Location: harker heights, TX

2000 Plymouth Neon LX

Post: #1   PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 8:47 pm    Post subject: went to the track Reply with quote

so i went to the track for the first time and i ran a 15.1 at 99 i spun tires all through first gear i belive i should have been faster
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message  
Wenuden
Dirty whore.
2GN Registrant


Age: 35
Joined: 06 Apr 2007
Posts: 2554
Location: Alexandria, Va

2005 Dodge SRT-4

Post: #2   PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If your mods are correct, indicating you're boosted, yes, you should be able to do better.

What was your 60 foot time?
_________________
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message  
JeffM
2GN Registrant


Age: 28
Joined: 04 Nov 2008
Posts: 3589
Location: Vermont

2004 Dodge SRT-4

Post: #3   PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 3:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

With a 6262 you should be putting buses on that time. Just give it some more practice.
_________________
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail AIM Address
chipdogg
T-350 Expert
2GN Registrant


Age: 32
Joined: 08 Jul 2010
Posts: 721
Location: Muscoda, WI



Post: #4   PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

99 mph? How much boost you running? I'm trapping 101-102 all-motor. 1st gen though.

Looks like you'd have trouble hitting a high 13.
_________________
COME TO MY NEXT NEON MEET!!!

September 26th, 2015

http://forum.2gn.org/viewtopic.php?p=1012269
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message  
7654800neon
2GN Registrant


Age: 31
Joined: 28 Mar 2012
Posts: 145
Location: harker heights, TX

2000 Plymouth Neon LX

Post: #5   PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

2.6045 was my 60 foot also all this was untuned with shity unmatched tires
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message  
INVUJerry
UNO MOD!
2GN Registrant


Age: 31
Joined: 21 Nov 2005
Posts: 6429
Location: Hanover, PA

2005 Dodge

Post: #6   PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 4:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, you need to learn how to launch the car. You should be able to get a 2.2 60' if you don't screw the pooch on the launch. The clutch and gas aren't on/off switches, learn to modulate them better, and get better tires.
_________________
theColonel wrote:
Jerry you've always been an asshole, so I can always opt not to read your posts on Facebook.

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address
LowNSlow
2GN OG
Moderator


Age: 31
Joined: 11 May 2004
Posts: 5016
Location: Houston TX



Post: #7   PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

INVUJerry wrote:
Yeah, you need to learn how to launch the car. You should be able to get a 2.2 60' if you don't screw the pooch on the launch. The clutch and gas aren't on/off switches, learn to modulate them better, and get better tires.


Exactly, but I don't see why a good driver can't get a 2.0-2.1...

7654800neon wrote:
2.6045 was my 60 foot also all this was untuned with shity unmatched tires


That's a crazy high 60ft.. I think I could out 60 that in a school bus.



99MPH trap should be good for a 13.9-14.0...
_________________
-John


Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address
INVUJerry
UNO MOD!
2GN Registrant


Age: 31
Joined: 21 Nov 2005
Posts: 6429
Location: Hanover, PA

2005 Dodge

Post: #8   PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Best I ever got on street tires in my N/A car was 2.2, and the best my SRT ever got was 2.15 on Sumitomo HTR Z rated tires, and that was very hard lol. I launched at 2K and rolled into the throttle in first.

Honestly if you plan on just drag racing, I'd invest in a set of 15x7 wheels with slicks, probably 24.5x8x15 or 24.5x8.5x15. You can launch off a two step and get great results.
_________________
theColonel wrote:
Jerry you've always been an asshole, so I can always opt not to read your posts on Facebook.

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address
chipdogg
T-350 Expert
2GN Registrant


Age: 32
Joined: 08 Jul 2010
Posts: 721
Location: Muscoda, WI



Post: #9   PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LowNSlow wrote:
99MPH trap should be good for a 13.9-14.0...


Don't forget though, once you get your 60' down, your trap is down too. I think he'd have trouble hitting a 13.999.

Either way though, I'd be very disappointed.
_________________
COME TO MY NEXT NEON MEET!!!

September 26th, 2015

http://forum.2gn.org/viewtopic.php?p=1012269
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message  
DingoR/T04
2GN Registrant


Age: 28
Joined: 09 Jan 2010
Posts: 337
Location: Please PA

2004 Dodge Neon R/T

Post: #10   PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If he builds boost off of the 2-step and is on slicks, his mph will go up along with going faster. Slicks is a whole another ball game compared to street tires.
_________________
08 black Caliber 11.95@126mph
08sbo caliber srt 11.87@122.41 New numbers coming soon #7 worlds fastest cali.
04 R/T Neon 14.0 @ 102mph on 12psi with street tires, n slipping clutch
2001 Cougar-3l swap, Intake, Exhaust, untuned 177whp n 180ftq. RIP
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message  
LowNSlow
2GN OG
Moderator


Age: 31
Joined: 11 May 2004
Posts: 5016
Location: Houston TX



Post: #11   PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DingoR/T04 wrote:
If he builds boost off of the 2-step and is on slicks, his mph will go up along with going faster. Slicks is a whole another ball game compared to street tires.


I'd learn how to race it as is before throwing more parts at it.

2.6 60 is not acceptable with any tire.
_________________
-John


Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address
JeffM
2GN Registrant


Age: 28
Joined: 04 Nov 2008
Posts: 3589
Location: Vermont

2004 Dodge SRT-4

Post: #12   PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

INVUJerry wrote:
Best I ever got on street tires in my N/A car was 2.2, and the best my SRT ever got was 2.15 on Sumitomo HTR Z rated tires, and that was very hard lol. I launched at 2K and rolled into the throttle in first.

Ewww I hate HTR's. Laughing

I've seen some SRT's do 2.0's, but they also had a lot of practice.
_________________
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail AIM Address
chipdogg
T-350 Expert
2GN Registrant


Age: 32
Joined: 08 Jul 2010
Posts: 721
Location: Muscoda, WI



Post: #13   PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JeffM wrote:
INVUJerry wrote:
Best I ever got on street tires in my N/A car was 2.2, and the best my SRT ever got was 2.15 on Sumitomo HTR Z rated tires, and that was very hard lol. I launched at 2K and rolled into the throttle in first.

Ewww I hate HTR's. Laughing

I've seen some SRT's do 2.0's, but they also had a lot of practice.


Usually I see them running high 14's with 2.5 60's like a bunch of retards.
_________________
COME TO MY NEXT NEON MEET!!!

September 26th, 2015

http://forum.2gn.org/viewtopic.php?p=1012269
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message  
JeffM
2GN Registrant


Age: 28
Joined: 04 Nov 2008
Posts: 3589
Location: Vermont

2004 Dodge SRT-4

Post: #14   PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

chipdogg wrote:
Usually I see them running high 14's with 2.5 60's like a bunch of retards.

...That's why you find the ones who aren't. Wink
_________________
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail AIM Address
chipdogg
T-350 Expert
2GN Registrant


Age: 32
Joined: 08 Jul 2010
Posts: 721
Location: Muscoda, WI



Post: #15   PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JeffM wrote:
chipdogg wrote:
Usually I see them running high 14's with 2.5 60's like a bunch of retards.

...That's why you find the ones who aren't. Wink


I prefer finding the guys that wreck them.

There was an older guy a few years ago that'd run mid-high 13's on street tires without much done to it but he passed away 2 years ago. Figures, I find an SRT-4 owner that's not a d-bag and he passes away.

I do like beating them though. Twisted Evil
_________________
COME TO MY NEXT NEON MEET!!!

September 26th, 2015

http://forum.2gn.org/viewtopic.php?p=1012269
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message  
7654800neon
2GN Registrant


Age: 31
Joined: 28 Mar 2012
Posts: 145
Location: harker heights, TX

2000 Plymouth Neon LX

Post: #16   PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

like i said i was spining the whole time so i dont see how im going to get a quicker 60 foot untill i get better tires
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message  
gearbanger4
2GN Registrant


Age: 35
Joined: 02 Sep 2010
Posts: 26
Location: Crystal Lake, IL



Post: #17   PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

7654800neon - trying to launch a turbo car can be no fun. I used to run 12.50's at 116 mph in my old SRT one run, and mid 13's the next. It was either come out of the hole like a limp dick, or spin the crap out of the tires 90% of the time (and that was on drag radials). Looking back, I would agree with INVUjerry regarding the 2-step and slicks. It is the only way I would try to race a big turbo car again to avoid torturing myself with inconsistency.

chipdogg - You actually found one! ROFL I owned one for 7 years, but no longer want to be in that "category" myself any more....so much that I would not even do a SRT engine swap either and I usually cringe when somebody suggests it......in a sick sort of way, I can't wait to get back to GLD or Byron with my non SRT motor and claim my first SRT.
_________________
2004 Dodge Neon SXT 5 speed - DD
2002 Dodge Neon ACR
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message  
LowNSlow
2GN OG
Moderator


Age: 31
Joined: 11 May 2004
Posts: 5016
Location: Houston TX



Post: #18   PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

7654800neon wrote:
like i said i was spining the whole time so i dont see how im going to get a quicker 60 foot untill i get better tires


It's called throttle control.


I could take off out the hole on street tires in my old 500 hp Cobra and not spin..... like someone said before, release clutch does not = MASH gas all the way down.

I'm sure being FWD and turbo...you will spin...but it was manageable in my SRT-4 which had the crappy Sumitomo HTR tires.

Learn to drive it as is...then throw more parts at it.

This is coming from someone who has been down the track hundreds of times.
_________________
-John


Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address
Wenuden
Dirty whore.
2GN Registrant


Age: 35
Joined: 06 Apr 2007
Posts: 2554
Location: Alexandria, Va

2005 Dodge SRT-4

Post: #19   PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What he said. Learning to launch on shit tires is a skill that will transfer over to better tires, and save you some wasted tread on what will likely be much more expensive rubber.
_________________
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message  
chipdogg
T-350 Expert
2GN Registrant


Age: 32
Joined: 08 Jul 2010
Posts: 721
Location: Muscoda, WI



Post: #20   PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gearbanger4 wrote:
chipdogg - You actually found one! ROFL I owned one for 7 years, but no longer want to be in that "category" myself any more....so much that I would not even do a SRT engine swap either and I usually cringe when somebody suggests it......in a sick sort of way, I can't wait to get back to GLD or Byron with my non SRT motor and claim my first SRT.


August 18-19 I'll be there for Import Wars (GLD). Gotta get mine back together first though. Not too much left.
_________________
COME TO MY NEXT NEON MEET!!!

September 26th, 2015

http://forum.2gn.org/viewtopic.php?p=1012269
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message  
JeffM
2GN Registrant


Age: 28
Joined: 04 Nov 2008
Posts: 3589
Location: Vermont

2004 Dodge SRT-4

Post: #21   PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Throttle control and an N2MB Boost Box. Set 1st gear to 0psi, and up the boost in each gear; by 3rd you should be at full boost. Enjoy your traction.
_________________
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail AIM Address
INVUJerry
UNO MOD!
2GN Registrant


Age: 31
Joined: 21 Nov 2005
Posts: 6429
Location: Hanover, PA

2005 Dodge

Post: #22   PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or just roll into the gas, don't mash it. I launched my SRT at 2000 RPM's, and took off like I was leaving a light. Went from 1/4 throttle and was almost at full throttle when I had to shift. I didn't even go WOT in 1st.

If he has a boosted 2.0 I don't think a boost box would work well for him. I'm sure his wastegate pressure is 7 or 13 psi. Gonna have to learn to drive.
_________________
theColonel wrote:
Jerry you've always been an asshole, so I can always opt not to read your posts on Facebook.

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address
JeffM
2GN Registrant


Age: 28
Joined: 04 Nov 2008
Posts: 3589
Location: Vermont

2004 Dodge SRT-4

Post: #23   PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

True. I'm not really suuuure how you'd set it up on a 2.0. There are some SRTs off PCM that're running them though. He is running a 6262 though, so I'm sure he has tons of pedal before hitting a reasonable amount of boost. Laughing
_________________
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail AIM Address
LowNSlow
2GN OG
Moderator


Age: 31
Joined: 11 May 2004
Posts: 5016
Location: Houston TX



Post: #24   PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

INVUJerry wrote:
Or just roll into the gas, don't mash it. I launched my SRT at 2000 RPM's, and took off like I was leaving a light. Went from 1/4 throttle and was almost at full throttle when I had to shift. I didn't even go WOT in 1st.

If he has a boosted 2.0 I don't think a boost box would work well for him. I'm sure his wastegate pressure is 7 or 13 psi. Gonna have to learn to drive.


That's how I always launched my NSRT....
_________________
-John


Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address
INVUJerry
UNO MOD!
2GN Registrant


Age: 31
Joined: 21 Nov 2005
Posts: 6429
Location: Hanover, PA

2005 Dodge

Post: #25   PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There you go, ladies and gentlemen. Don't be a tard with the gas.

Oh, no burnout on street tires!

What tires were you running anyway?
_________________
theColonel wrote:
Jerry you've always been an asshole, so I can always opt not to read your posts on Facebook.

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address
Wenuden
Dirty whore.
2GN Registrant


Age: 35
Joined: 06 Apr 2007
Posts: 2554
Location: Alexandria, Va

2005 Dodge SRT-4

Post: #26   PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speaking of no burnout on street tires, I wonder if he knows to drive around the waterbox...
_________________
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message  
LowNSlow
2GN OG
Moderator


Age: 31
Joined: 11 May 2004
Posts: 5016
Location: Houston TX



Post: #27   PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzlcBXLsRZo


I started to launch like I said above but got excited....and mashed the gas =/

See what happens? Spin city...but I think I did ok.
_________________
-John


Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    2GN.ORG Forum Index -> Drag Racing All times are UTC - 8 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Powered by p h p B B © 2001, 2005 p h p B B Group
2GN.org Decals
MidwestNeons.com