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Post: #1   PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:26 pm    Post subject: hesitation after shifting into 2nd... Reply with quote

It doesn't happen all the time, just once in awhile, but when I'm driving, shift into second, and start going again, it seems to hesitate or "bog", then it picks back up after a second. It's done that for awhile, but never got around to asking about it cuz it doesn't happen that often. When it does though, it really pisses me off. Does anyone know what it could be? I'm replacing the plugs/wires when I take it out of storage, so yeah. I'm hoping it's an easy fix.
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Post: #2   PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i believe the consensus is that its a because of the NGC programming.

normal. i get it everynow and again.
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Post: #3   PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I get it when I do a smooth shift into 2nd. It gets really loud for a second and bogs hard. It sucks when you're halfway through an intersection, so I just floor it and after a second it moves.
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Post: #4   PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to have the hesitation going into 2nd...then I got the PCM reflashed and it went bye bye.
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Post: #5   PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So it's just for the 03 and up? WTF?!?! That's gay...
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Post: #6   PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

how much does this flash cost?

free or paid by the hour for labor?
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Post: #7   PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Under the powertrain warrenty it should be free. Otherwise I think it takes 30 min, or 1 hr.

EDIT: Come to think of it, I think the problem was fixed in '05. Only the 03's and 04's show the TSB for tip-in sag. The '05 drivability TSB doesn't mention hessitaion (just skiming through the TSB). The '04 TSB states 0.8 hrs.
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Post: #8   PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so since i have less than 70000 miles it should be free

i think there is something im going to try and do tomorrow.
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Post: #9   PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TSB# 18-025-04 REV. A
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Post: #10   PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sweet, thanks. i printed that out.

any other TSB's i should be aware of the car was built 8/03, if you wouldn't mind.
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Post: #11   PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

2004 m/y TSB's

These are just some of the 2004 m/y TSB's. There may be some more ubscure ones. Best to ask your local dealer about any TSB's for your car. They should be able to give you a list bases on your VIN.
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Post: #12   PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks
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Post: #13   PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Man, over a year and were still handing out info on the reflashes. Smile
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Post: #14   PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah, i never picked up on it.

but since my warranty is about up, i figured i should get this stuff taken care of.
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Post: #15   PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So it's just for the 03 and up? WTF?!?! That's gay...



Nah, my car does it too. Smile I bet those TSB's will help you out though.
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Post: #16   PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

im most likely wrong, but i think it has to do with your mass airflow sensor and an upgraded intake. Computer expects airflow from a stock box, and gets too much, and cuts fuel down.
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Post: #17   PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i dont have an upgraded intake
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Post: #18   PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you don't have a mass flow sensor either... Razz MAP is Manifold Absolute Pressure sensor on a neon Very Happy
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i thought so but didnt want to look like a Tard Bang so i didnt say anything about that.
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bandhead live and learn. lol
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Post: #21   PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No worries. Mod and learn.
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Post: #22   PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 3:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Come to think of it, I think the problem was fixed in '05. Only the 03's and 04's show the TSB for tip-in sag. The '05 drivability TSB doesn't mention hessitaion (just skiming through the TSB). The '04 TSB states 0.8 hrs.


Well mine is an '05 and it does whatever I explained at the top of the page. My car has 32,xxx miles on it...if I take it to a dealer, it should be free then? Do I just tell them what is happening and they should know what it is?
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Well. Once in a while, I'll be driving, and I'll shift into second, let my foot off the clutch, give it gas, and it will go, and then suddenly it will bog, like somebody pressed their foot on the clutch for a few seconds, and then left off, even though this is not the case.

Is that what is happening to you?

I've taken my car in for this, and for car starting issues, and the dealership blows me off.
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Post: #24   PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine does it too, but not usually in second. Ive had problems driving around in 1st on/off the clutch (like in a low speed parking lot). It hardly happens anymore, but I can make it do it everytime on command by disengaging the clutch and then letting it back out while rolling in 1st. Never fails. definatly an NGC issue, 03+. Ive heard of people getting the flash and still having the issue, so since it doesnt bug me and I know how to avoid it I never took it in.
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Post: #25   PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lolelectricbluesxt wrote:
Well. Once in a while, I'll be driving, and I'll shift into second, let my foot off the clutch, give it gas, and it will go, and then suddenly it will bog, like somebody pressed their foot on the clutch for a few seconds, and then left off, even though this is not the case.

Is that what is happening to you?

I've taken my car in for this, and for car starting issues, and the dealership blows me off.


mine does that but it does it most of the time right when i start out in first, ill start goin and it does a real bad jerk and then continues like nothing ever happened. It gets real annoying after awhile but i dont know how to stop it.
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Post: #26   PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

After I shift into second get get on the gas again, it just blaaaaaahhhhh for a second, then it picks back up. It's fucking wierd and annoying when it happens...
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thats exactly what i had, sometimes not all the times. it was almost like there was a throttle limiter when you banged second.

but i havent noticed it since i put my udp on.
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Post: #28   PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 2:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mine does that too!
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Post: #29   PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine didn't start doing it until I read this topic. I think it is psychological.
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i've never had problems with my 03.....
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