2GN.ORG 2GN.ORG
The best source for the Second Generation Neon - Period.
 
 Watched TopicsWatched Topics   FAQFAQ   RulesBoard Rules   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   LinksLinks  :: Register
 ProfileProfile   GarageGarage   1/4 Mile Table1/4 Mile Table   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

2001 R/T ... More Power ??

Goto page 1, 2, 3  Next
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    2GN.ORG Forum Index -> Naturally Aspirated
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
nerox
2011 Silver Contributor


Age: 29
Joined: 20 Dec 2009
Posts: 939
Location: United Kingdom

2001 Chrysler Neon R/T

Post: #1   PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 10:39 pm    Post subject: 2001 R/T ... More Power ?? Reply with quote

So i've got a 2001 Black R/T with a few mods:

Comp400 Cam
Crane Valve Springs
MPX 60mm TB
CAI
Magnaflow Camaro Muffler
Drilled & Slotted Discs
EBC Red Pads
Boogers
Solid Cradle Bushings
and some other irrelevant mods

and im looking for more power Smile

I'm not keen on a UDP coz i like my AC freezing cold like it is now and dont wanna drop power from the alternator whilst running a few KW of stereo Smile

so whats next that i can do to up my engine output?
_________________
Official "I'm gonna drive my Neon until it dies" Club Member UK#1

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail MSN Messenger  
r/tguy02
I piss excellence
2GN Registrant


Age: 31
Joined: 07 Jul 2007
Posts: 3641
Location: carlisle, pa.

2002 Dodge Neon R/T

Post: #2   PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 4:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

maybe a LTH, other than that you're gonna have to start doing internal work on the engine like porting, higher CR, etc...
_________________
Justin
[02 R/T SOLD][00 Highline DD][04 r/t project][95 NYG Sport Coupe]

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2931823
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message AIM Address
Danteneon
Titanium Member
Moderator


Age: 48
Joined: 20 Dec 2007
Posts: 9591
Location: Manassas, VA

2002 Dodge Neon ACR

Post: #3   PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 4:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are nearing the end of the bolt-on road. It's unfortunate that you want your ice cold A/C and tunes because losing those would help put your car on a diet. But, like Justin said, the next level of power will come from head work, LTH, port matching, etc.
_________________
If I could just figure out how to meld the Outback and the Neon into one car...

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail  
Kezzo123
2GN Registrant


Age: 29
Joined: 01 Aug 2009
Posts: 113
Location: England, Bolton

2002 Chrysler Neon R/T

Post: #4   PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 4:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello fellow brit!

Ive done the lot apart from LTH and turbo (obv) - My 2cents are, dont bother its not worth the agro for the gain. Fair enough I can keep up with my mate in his Civic type R but was it worth it??

No.

Turbo or no-go - Anything else is disapointing
_________________

________________________________________
Copyright 2011 Kezzo123 Inc. All rights reserved.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message  
RobF
n00b


Age: 28
Joined: 02 May 2012
Posts: 8


2001 Chrysler Neon R/T

Post: #5   PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 4:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's ship in an srt4 engine from the states Very Happy
Il come help put it in lol Very Happy
_________________
Official "I'm gonna drive my Neon until it dies" Club Member UK#2
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message  
nerox
2011 Silver Contributor


Age: 29
Joined: 20 Dec 2009
Posts: 939
Location: United Kingdom

2001 Chrysler Neon R/T

Post: #6   PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damn i've only just fitted a new head and valves, springs and cam so im not keen on opening the engine up again for a while.

SRT engine could be found from Germany but it'll be rediculously expensive!
_________________
Official "I'm gonna drive my Neon until it dies" Club Member UK#1

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail MSN Messenger  
r/tguy02
I piss excellence
2GN Registrant


Age: 31
Joined: 07 Jul 2007
Posts: 3641
Location: carlisle, pa.

2002 Dodge Neon R/T

Post: #7   PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 5:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

how do they do inspections over there, are you required to pass an emissions test?
_________________
Justin
[02 R/T SOLD][00 Highline DD][04 r/t project][95 NYG Sport Coupe]

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2931823
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message AIM Address
nerox
2011 Silver Contributor


Age: 29
Joined: 20 Dec 2009
Posts: 939
Location: United Kingdom

2001 Chrysler Neon R/T

Post: #8   PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 5:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah we have a yearly safety check and they do emissions, my car usually passes easily but if it fails there are certain places you could leave a 'tip' and it might just pass anyway Laughing

but if i had an LTH it would definately fail everywhere because of the cat removal Sad
_________________
Official "I'm gonna drive my Neon until it dies" Club Member UK#1

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail MSN Messenger  
nerox
2011 Silver Contributor


Age: 29
Joined: 20 Dec 2009
Posts: 939
Location: United Kingdom

2001 Chrysler Neon R/T

Post: #9   PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe i should get a UDP anyway and just not blast the stereo so much Smile
_________________
Official "I'm gonna drive my Neon until it dies" Club Member UK#1

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail MSN Messenger  
RobF
n00b


Age: 28
Joined: 02 May 2012
Posts: 8


2001 Chrysler Neon R/T

Post: #10   PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get a LTH, then invest in a slimmer hi flow cat to fit in the tunnel behind the header, extend the O2 wires so it won't throw a code, and then you should pass your MOT no probs Smile
Probs gna be expensive though! Sad
_________________
Official "I'm gonna drive my Neon until it dies" Club Member UK#2
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message  
r/tguy02
I piss excellence
2GN Registrant


Age: 31
Joined: 07 Jul 2007
Posts: 3641
Location: carlisle, pa.

2002 Dodge Neon R/T

Post: #11   PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ what he said, keep in mind an UDP may cause a CEL in your car
_________________
Justin
[02 R/T SOLD][00 Highline DD][04 r/t project][95 NYG Sport Coupe]

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2931823
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message AIM Address
RobsProjectSOHC
2012 Gold Contributor


Age: 28
Joined: 19 Aug 2011
Posts: 424
Location: NY



Post: #12   PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only thing that was missing is turbo? Lol
_________________
Project 003. Just building a Daily Driver with some upgrades.
For Sale Thread | CarDomain | FeedBack
Official "I'm gonna drive my Neon until it dies Club" Member #119
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message  
occasional demons
Mr One World
Moderator


Age: 52
Joined: 03 May 2007
Posts: 19834
Location: Ashland, Ohio

2001 Dodge Neon ES

Post: #13   PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

UDP CEL is mostly 2002 PCM's.
_________________
Bill


2001 neon ES MTX with '02 R/T PCM
1999 neon 2.4 EDZ MTX
Help support 2GN!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message AIM Address
r/tguy02
I piss excellence
2GN Registrant


Age: 31
Joined: 07 Jul 2007
Posts: 3641
Location: carlisle, pa.

2002 Dodge Neon R/T

Post: #14   PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 7:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

for the r/t it was both years, you're right for base models
_________________
Justin
[02 R/T SOLD][00 Highline DD][04 r/t project][95 NYG Sport Coupe]

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2931823
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message AIM Address
nerox
2011 Silver Contributor


Age: 29
Joined: 20 Dec 2009
Posts: 939
Location: United Kingdom

2001 Chrysler Neon R/T

Post: #15   PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmmm...

i guess an UDP is out the question.

Maybe a LTH is an option but id have to look into that a bit more ...

How about NOS? I know thats legal over here ... as long as you dont break the speed limit ROFL
_________________
Official "I'm gonna drive my Neon until it dies" Club Member UK#1

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail MSN Messenger  
Barry McCockener
2GN Registrant


Age: 28
Joined: 31 Jul 2011
Posts: 151
Location: Ethiopia, Mongoria



Post: #16   PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would be cheaper in the long run to go boosted. IDK what the prices are like over there but it's about $400 for a nitrous kit and average cost to fill a 10lb bottle is $40.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message  
r/tguy02
I piss excellence
2GN Registrant


Age: 31
Joined: 07 Jul 2007
Posts: 3641
Location: carlisle, pa.

2002 Dodge Neon R/T

Post: #17   PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ what he said, although its easier to do than turboing for sure
_________________
Justin
[02 R/T SOLD][00 Highline DD][04 r/t project][95 NYG Sport Coupe]

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2931823
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message AIM Address
nerox
2011 Silver Contributor


Age: 29
Joined: 20 Dec 2009
Posts: 939
Location: United Kingdom

2001 Chrysler Neon R/T

Post: #18   PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How does this look for a turbo kit?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dodge-Neon-R-T-ACR-2001-2004-420A-2-0L-T3-T4-Turbo-Kit-/270551545982?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3efe20f87e
_________________
Official "I'm gonna drive my Neon until it dies" Club Member UK#1

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail MSN Messenger  
r/tguy02
I piss excellence
2GN Registrant


Age: 31
Joined: 07 Jul 2007
Posts: 3641
Location: carlisle, pa.

2002 Dodge Neon R/T

Post: #19   PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

try to stay away from ebay kits thumbup
_________________
Justin
[02 R/T SOLD][00 Highline DD][04 r/t project][95 NYG Sport Coupe]

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2931823
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message AIM Address
nerox
2011 Silver Contributor


Age: 29
Joined: 20 Dec 2009
Posts: 939
Location: United Kingdom

2001 Chrysler Neon R/T

Post: #20   PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

r/tguy02 wrote:
try to stay away from ebay kits thumbup


Ok, where should I look for one? I checked Modern Performance but they say discontinued Sad
_________________
Official "I'm gonna drive my Neon until it dies" Club Member UK#1

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail MSN Messenger  
Danteneon
Titanium Member
Moderator


Age: 48
Joined: 20 Dec 2007
Posts: 9591
Location: Manassas, VA

2002 Dodge Neon ACR

Post: #21   PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You aren't going to find a kit per-se. Doing a turbo right on a Neon (without swapping a SRT engine in) takes some careful planning and a good amount of cash to do it right. ASP on here is a very good resource for all things turbo. And Eric love boosting 2.0s Laughing
_________________
If I could just figure out how to meld the Outback and the Neon into one car...

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail  
nerox
2011 Silver Contributor


Age: 29
Joined: 20 Dec 2009
Posts: 939
Location: United Kingdom

2001 Chrysler Neon R/T

Post: #22   PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damn, thats annoying, i was hoping to find an all-in-one kit.

hmm .... maybe ill have to have a re-think.

I would happily have done the SRT swap if i didnt just spend a bomb rebuilding head and changing some other stuff...

maybe i shold consider a weight reduction plan instead, or just use 99RON fuel instead of regular 95
_________________
Official "I'm gonna drive my Neon until it dies" Club Member UK#1

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail MSN Messenger  
occasional demons
Mr One World
Moderator


Age: 52
Joined: 03 May 2007
Posts: 19834
Location: Ashland, Ohio

2001 Dodge Neon ES

Post: #23   PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Higher octane will get you a little boost in power, but mainly when you are standing on the stupid pedal. You will see a little more for part throttle, but the tiny bit of extra power causes you to unconsciously use more fuel, because well, it is making more power, and you just can't help it. Laughing
_________________
Bill


2001 neon ES MTX with '02 R/T PCM
1999 neon 2.4 EDZ MTX
Help support 2GN!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message AIM Address
Barry McCockener
2GN Registrant


Age: 28
Joined: 31 Jul 2011
Posts: 151
Location: Ethiopia, Mongoria



Post: #24   PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Higher octane fuel doesn't give you HP. Higher octane fuel is for reducing detonation in high comp, boosted, and N2O engines. Using the right fuel for your engine will give you the most power. I could spend the extra money on 93 octane for my car which is stock and it won't run as well as when I put in 87 or an 87/89 mix.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message  
r/tguy02
I piss excellence
2GN Registrant


Age: 31
Joined: 07 Jul 2007
Posts: 3641
Location: carlisle, pa.

2002 Dodge Neon R/T

Post: #25   PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

R/t's love premium fuel Smile
_________________
Justin
[02 R/T SOLD][00 Highline DD][04 r/t project][95 NYG Sport Coupe]

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2931823
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message AIM Address
Barry McCockener
2GN Registrant


Age: 28
Joined: 31 Jul 2011
Posts: 151
Location: Ethiopia, Mongoria



Post: #26   PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's because they're tuned for premium. I have the basic non mag 2.slow so I can use the cheap stuff. I wanna be able to use premium lol
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message  
r/tguy02
I piss excellence
2GN Registrant


Age: 31
Joined: 07 Jul 2007
Posts: 3641
Location: carlisle, pa.

2002 Dodge Neon R/T

Post: #27   PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you just got done telling him higher octane wont give him more power Confused
_________________
Justin
[02 R/T SOLD][00 Highline DD][04 r/t project][95 NYG Sport Coupe]

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2931823
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message AIM Address
Barry McCockener
2GN Registrant


Age: 28
Joined: 31 Jul 2011
Posts: 151
Location: Ethiopia, Mongoria



Post: #28   PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The gas itself doesn't, the tune/engine is what dictates the octane requirements. The higher the octane the more it decreases the chance of detonation. That's why it's needed for forced induction, high compression, N2O, and performance engines.

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/fuel-efficiency/fuel-consumption/question90.htm
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message  
r/tguy02
I piss excellence
2GN Registrant


Age: 31
Joined: 07 Jul 2007
Posts: 3641
Location: carlisle, pa.

2002 Dodge Neon R/T

Post: #29   PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes i already know all that. he already has the tune in the computer, so in reality its the gas that inables him to utilize that hp. all depends on how you look at it
_________________
Justin
[02 R/T SOLD][00 Highline DD][04 r/t project][95 NYG Sport Coupe]

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2931823
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message AIM Address
INVUJerry
UNO MOD!
2GN Registrant


Age: 31
Joined: 21 Nov 2005
Posts: 6429
Location: Hanover, PA

2005 Dodge

Post: #30   PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just put nitrous on it. $400 for a used kit, $40 to fill a bottle, and maybe $50 for a bottle heater. You can get a TON of 1/4 mile passes out of a bottle if you keep the shot size reasonable.
_________________
theColonel wrote:
Jerry you've always been an asshole, so I can always opt not to read your posts on Facebook.

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    2GN.ORG Forum Index -> Naturally Aspirated All times are UTC - 8 Hours
Goto page 1, 2, 3  Next
Page 1 of 3

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Powered by p h p B B © 2001, 2005 p h p B B Group
2GN.org Decals
MidwestNeons.com