Moog Replacement Tie Rods: Can't screw them in far enough

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Moog Replacement Tie Rods: Can't screw them in far enough

Post by ducktapetg » Tue Apr 29, 2014 10:20 am

As the title says, I cannot screw the driver side moog tie rod replacement in far enough. I went to get an alignment and they couldn't get in it any further (due to the tie rods design (well they did which will probably make the fix harder)). My question is, can I cut the threaded rod on the inner tie rod 1/2" or so so I can have further adjustment or is there another tie rod with a longer threaded section?

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Post by sidepipe87 » Tue Apr 29, 2014 12:15 pm

I'm confused why they won't work if they are the right part... your sig says 01 R/T is that the correct car? The outer toe rods may differ based on model since the knuckle steering placement varies between models. It sounds like you have the wrong tie rod ends... that said, you may be able to thread the inner tie rod more with a thread die. To me the bigger question is why isn't the tie rod end correct?
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Post by occasional demons » Tue Apr 29, 2014 12:29 pm

Inner tie rod lengths vary also.

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From what I am seeing for aftermarket replacement, they only have the MTX ones shown as less than 7/8" longer.

Mine appear to be a bit more than an inch longer. I didn't think to measure the difference, or if I did I forgot it.

I actually had to go with Moog ends because I had this problem with the tie rod bottoming in the oem end.

Tolerances, and how well the sub frame/crossmember is centered, can cause this.
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Post by Gnuserup » Tue Apr 29, 2014 12:34 pm

maybe the same problem as I had with an aftermarket part (but not a Moog),

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but only on the drivers side.

Cut it or change the inner as well.
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Post by ducktapetg » Tue Apr 29, 2014 1:14 pm

Thanks for the replies and images!

I guess I will end up cutting it. I am really disappointed as I thought this would be as simple as taking off the old tie rod and putting on another. I guess it is another weekend project. :banghead:
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Post by silverneontuner » Wed Apr 30, 2014 12:10 am

as an aligment technician i have seen this happen before, the rack and pinion was not centered on the steering shaft thus leaving one side out of adjustment.

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Post by r/tguy02 » Wed Apr 30, 2014 8:26 am

^ this most likely
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Post by ducktapetg » Wed Apr 30, 2014 9:37 am

silverneontuner wrote:as an aligment technician i have seen this happen before, the rack and pinion was not centered on the steering shaft thus leaving one side out of adjustment.
Wouldn't that be as simple as removing the tie rod from the knuckle, straightening the wheel, and re installing the tie rod. Wouldn't an alignment tech fix this issue?
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Post by ducktapetg » Mon May 05, 2014 1:07 pm

I ended up cutting .75" off the end of the tie rod. It aligned perfectly! Thanks for all the input
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