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Post: #1   PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 7:31 pm    Post subject: 1st Gen Throttle Body Reply with quote

Recently picked up from Modern Performance an AMM no 90 lower intake, very nice piece, beautiful welding. This will be going on a 2.4 that will be installed in my 01 R/T. Since a 1st gen TB bolts right on, does any know if the TPS from a 1st gen is same as one on a 2nd gen? If the TPS is the same, that only leaves te IAC and maybe a mounting bracket for the throttle and cruise cables to be adapted.
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Post: #2   PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 8:43 pm    Post subject: Re: 1st Gen Throttle Body Reply with quote

04R/T wrote:
Since a 1st gen TB bolts right on, does any know if the TPS from a 1st gen is same as one on a 2nd gen?


Comparing the two.... They appear the same to me.
A quick test on Amazon.com shows the application would be the same for SOHC engines, across the board on 1996-2005. (1995 being a possible exception.)

A couple of minor differences, between the 1st gen DOHC vs. SOHC TPS sensors ..... The DOHC TPS has the plug connection 'angled' differently. (90deg.'L')
This may or may not matter, depending on the direction that the plug gets angled. Just something to be aware of, in case there are any 'interference' or 'clearance' issues with anything else under the hood.
DOHC:
http://contentinfo.autozone.com/znetcs/product-info/en/US/wl2/TPS326/image/2/

SOHC:
http://contentinfo.autozone.com/znetcs/product-info/en/US/wl2/TPS323/image/3/

Also, keep in mind that the 1995 model year may have the 'round-pin' connectors as opposed to the 'flat-pin' connectors that were used following model years.


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Post: #3   PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2016 1:34 pm    Post subject: Re: 1st Gen Throttle Body Reply with quote

NickKo wrote:
They appear the same to me.
A quick test on Amazon.com shows the application would be the same for SOHC engines, across the board on 1996-2005.


Good info, thanks! Now to figure out how to adapt the IAC, Some of the remote setups I have seen here give good ideas. Think
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Post: #4   PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2016 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Remote mounting the IAC like I did would be the best way, as the 2001 up IAC won't work with the 1gn throttle body.

Just be sure to use a minimum tube size of 3/8". I have no issues with idle using that. I wouldn't recommend vacuum hose, as it could collapse.
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Post: #5   PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

occasional demons wrote:
Remote mounting the IAC like I did would be the best way,


Yes, your thread detailing how you did this is what I was looking at. Hope you don't mind if I 'borrow' your ideas. Smile
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Post: #6   PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 5:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL, if I wanted to be selfish, I wouldn't have posted it. Very Happy

I'm actually surprised the OEM's didn't do it like that. A little different mold for the IAC which they had to make anyways, some plastic tubing, and they could have saved on throttle body costs.

Or just molded them into the plastic IM's for that matter. The MAP sensors used to be separate from the IM on the 1980/1990's cars...
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