Stiffer Rear Mounts/Clunking in Rear???? Solution!

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Stiffer Rear Mounts/Clunking in Rear???? Solution!

Post by SlvrACR » Wed Jun 07, 2006 10:42 am

Well I had a clunking in the rear like alot of the 2nd gens. I tryed getting new mounts but that didnt help. I found that someone did a fix on SRTforums. THere was no how-to so I did a short one with some pics.

Your gonna need to buy:
1 Tube of 3m Windo-Weld Urethane (Found mine at Advanced Auto)
Whatever tools you dont have to take the strut apart

First thing is to get the strut assembly off the vehicle.
Once you have the full strut off, remove the upper strut mount.
It will look like this. ( Notice the gaps we are filling in )

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Now you take the 3m Urethane and place it in the chalk gun. Cut the tip very small so you can get it totally filled.

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Now slowly start to fill the entire gap with as much urethane that will go in there WITHOUT spilling out of the gap. You want to wipe it clean so the strut and nut will still fit in there tightly.

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You should let these dry for atleast 5-7 hours. I did a day because of rain. My mounts had 30,000 miles on them and after driving them afterwards I can say this was a very nice $15 mod and got rid of my banging in the rear. I had tryed new mounts before this and took them back because they did not solve my problem. I know I sort of rushed the how-to so if anyone needs help im more then happy to answer your problems.
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Post by Nick Drake » Wed Jun 07, 2006 12:09 pm

Awesome write-up mang.
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Post by kc2005ptgt » Wed Jun 07, 2006 7:21 pm

dude, wicked crazy - btw, is the strut hard to take off? I assume it means loosing the spring too? (I mean remove it)
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Post by scneonchic » Wed Jun 07, 2006 7:59 pm

hmmm intresting....maybe I should do this to mine before everything is installed

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Post by SlvrACR » Wed Jun 07, 2006 8:01 pm

If you are doing a drop this is a quick ez thing to do. Yes you have to take the spring off unless you only want to fill the upper. I did both so the spring had to go. I took a ride and loved that evern without the trunk carpet in it was so much quieter
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Post by scneonchic » Wed Jun 07, 2006 8:14 pm

did you just go to an auto parts store to get the extra strut mounts that you bought? I might just get more through work and fill mine becaus eI dont want to take it all apart again later if it clunks.

How much did they run you?

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Post by SlvrACR » Wed Jun 07, 2006 9:01 pm

I bought new ones and installed them. They clunked so I took them out and filled my orignal ones. I payed $25 a piece I think for Moog ones
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Post by scneonchic » Wed Jun 07, 2006 9:01 pm

Moog?

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Post by SlvrACR » Wed Jun 07, 2006 9:06 pm

Ya Moog makes suspension parts. They are OE replacements
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Post by non-magnum » Thu Jun 08, 2006 4:19 am

I have similar problem, but i think my shocks went out, when i hit a little bump or turn they start to squeak, i'll record a video clip tomorrow. Or maybe i just need to use ur method and see if it helps :wink:

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Post by 01rtgurl » Fri Jun 09, 2006 10:52 pm

hmmm all i did to mine was cut it apart, stuff a bunch more rubber in (from bushings and what not) and then weld it back up lol. this sounds easier hahaha! oh, and non-magnum: mine squeaked too ;)
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Post by scneonchic » Sat Jun 10, 2006 9:40 am

I found them through the catalog at work for like $25 each, so Im going to order them and go ahead and have them for when my stuff gets installed. The last thing I want is to finally get my parts on and have an annoying sound all the time.

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Post by SlvrACR » Mon Jan 22, 2007 10:24 pm

7,000 miles and still working. Clunk free
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Post by Karizmatik » Mon May 28, 2007 6:11 pm

I just wanted to say thank you to SlvrACR for bringing this to my attention and for the little how-to. I performed this on my clunking ass rear end yesterday and didn't hear a clunk one to work and back which is about 80 miles ish total drive :thumbup:

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Post by scneonchic » Wed May 30, 2007 6:25 pm

I may have to do this to the new neon also....The rear clunks terribly at times :(

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Post by loko498 » Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:35 pm

This might solve my squeak problem! Thank you!

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Post by neon2ner » Tue Feb 12, 2008 8:12 am

man, this sound has been driving me nuts, especially with my illuminas cranked up to 4 or 5 setting haha.

this is a good alternative to buying new pillowball mounts or something, if there are even any available. maybe a little off topic, but does anyone know if the mopar upper pillowball mounts (says in the catalog that they work with the kw mopar coilovers) work on stock struts by any chance?

p.s, you suck for having srt ACR wheels, haha. wish i could find some. best looking ACR i've seen thus far.
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Post by KrazyRdR83 » Wed Feb 27, 2008 9:51 am

i may do this the next time i take off my struts.
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Post by neon2ner » Wed Feb 27, 2008 4:51 pm

does anyone know an answer to my question?

that is, can the mopar pillowball mounts (made for the stage 3r coils i believe) work with other struts, aka my illuminas or other coilovers for that matter?
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Post by Danteneon » Wed Feb 27, 2008 5:02 pm

Nice cheap fix man! Of course, if I still had stock struts I would totally go that route. But alas...

neon2ner wrote:does anyone know an answer to my question?

that is, can the mopar pillowball mounts (made for the stage 3r coils i believe) work with other struts, aka my illuminas or other coilovers for that matter?


Sorry I didn't see this question before. The KW mounts will not work with OE struts. The opening is too small or too tall I believe. As far as working with other brands? Not sure *edit, the instructions that come with the kit say they "are not intended to work factory struts or other manufacturers products"* .I have a set of MP mounts here for my car...I will take some pictures and give you some measurements tomorrow.
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Post by neon2ner » Thu Feb 28, 2008 5:45 pm

that would be excellent. thanks bro. i just want the adjustment of pillowball with my illuminas. if not, i'll just have to go with coils.
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Post by Danteneon » Thu Feb 28, 2008 7:46 pm

I have the pics taken, but I want to get the exact measurements down as well. Hopefully on Friday.
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Post by neon2ner » Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:23 pm

word.

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Post by neon2ner » Sun Mar 23, 2008 6:22 pm

any update on measurements?
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Post by Danteneon » Sun Mar 23, 2008 10:31 pm

I have the pics taken...but I still haven't taken accurate measurements...I suck :beatstick:

Things have been...a little hectic. I will get them done and post them in the next couple days for sure though.

As a side note...the MP mounts are REALLY expensive...
$399.00 for the front, $419.00 for the rear. In case you didn't know.
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Post by Danteneon » Fri Mar 28, 2008 9:56 am

Ok, I finally got my crap together with the measurements. Notice that the caliper in the pictures is set up for reference only, the measurements the tool shows won't be acurate. The correct measurements are listed below the pics.

Front Mount

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Rear

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^^^The bearing ID is the same front and rear...18mm

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^^^The adapter OD is 17.94mm

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^^^The upper spring mount is 22mm ID (where the strut shaft comes through, threads would sit above this point)

I hope this helps. If you need other measurements, let me know :thumbup:
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Post by neon2ner » Fri Mar 28, 2008 3:17 pm

thanks man,

that will definitely help.

and yes, i realize they are pricey. however, my dad used to own a dealership, and i still get real good deals at the parts counter...not to mention i'm almost their only performance parts customer. haha

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Post by Danteneon » Fri Mar 28, 2008 3:19 pm

Sweet! It helps to have connections :thumbup:

If you decide to do it, let us know how it works.
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Post by neon2ner » Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:36 pm

haven't had a chance to measure my struts. only thing is, if my illuminas are exactly to spec with stock struts (as far as the amount of threads sticking through the top of the mount), then that might be a problem. i know for a fact that the piston diameter in my illuminas is far larger than the stockers, but i think this height thing may be an issue upon further contemplation.

nevertheless, i'm going to measure them and check it out when i have my suspension apart next.
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Post by nate-00neon » Thu Apr 24, 2008 11:00 am

wow i was wondering about this thanks for the fix!
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