stutter is back again...

TNK · Post by **TNK** » Mon Dec 11, 2006 1:24 am

so i swapped the wires from the skunk into the blue car, and it took care of the stutter.... until yesterday, i noticed that it started again.... is it cuz i used wires from teh skunk which has been sitting since april? maybe a new set of plugs/wires/ and a coil will work?

here's my plan....

MSD coil
MSD wires
new plugs.. but what plugs? are the accel u grooves madern has any good?

LCPLPunk · Post by **LCPLPunk** » Mon Dec 11, 2006 9:01 am

from what i've heard the MSD coilpack isn't really any better than the stock one, but i could be wrong.

There isn't any oil in the spark plug tubes is there? U could also try cleaning your injectors.

When does the stutter happen? Full throttle, idle?

scneonchic · Post by **scneonchic** » Mon Dec 11, 2006 7:35 pm

MSD coil pack is the same as stock. Screamin Demon is better from what Ive heard. There is a thread around here about it. Engine section maybe.

I have always used NGK vpowers in mine and its been fine. What are you using now?

BlackRoseRacing · Post by **BlackRoseRacing** » Mon Dec 11, 2006 7:46 pm

accel u grooves

They are JUNK!
I had them in my old reliant with a 650double pumper and they fouled out the first 5 minutes I ran the car. Stick with NGK's wether its the V-power's or the Iridiums that I have been running for 3 years(same set, 2 different cars, 3 different motors gapped at .45)
As for wires, I'll sell the MSD's im using now or the MP wires shipped at a resonable price, pm me on that.
And now finally the coil, unless yours is taking a crap upgrading to the Accel,MSD, or Screamin Deamin on your setup is a waste of time

TNK · Post by **TNK** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 3:54 pm

10-4. thanks for the tips... sounds like im just gonna go with some wires and some NGKs and some seafoam...

dblsg · Post by **dblsg** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 2:15 am

have you seen a speech therapist?

refect · Post by **refect** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 2:32 am

i have a screamin demon if you want it.

TNK · Post by **TNK** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 10:15 am

how much brad?

and sam, im currently working with one.. b-b-b-but it hasn't d-d-d-d-done m-m-much for me j-j-j-just yet...

refect · Post by **refect** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 11:11 am

TNK wrote:how much brad?

and sam, im currently working with one.. b-b-b-but it hasn't d-d-d-d-done m-m-much for me j-j-j-just yet...

pm sent

03sxt · Post by **03sxt** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 6:39 pm

My '03 has been having these problems again, too.

I'm going to try new plugs... If those don't fix anything, I'm trading the car in. I just put in new plug wires 6 months ago.

Jerome Adams · Post by **Jerome Adams** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 7:25 pm

Under what conditions does the studder happen? Mine studders when I am going slow...like cruising thru housing @ 15mph in 2nd gear....it studders pretty hard (enough where the wife and kids start bitching and tell me to stop screwing around). It only happens in a very small speed/rpm window for me.

Are ya'll talking about the same thing, or something different?

TNK · Post by **TNK** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 7:44 pm

Mike, you're effin kiddin me right?!?!?!

jerome, mine happens when i gas it... like hard acceleration, whether from a stop or from a low rpm in 2nd or 3rd gear, if i get on the gas really hard it stutters adn shakes the whole car...

oh, and it does it at idle, if you listen to my car idle, you can hear it miss, sometimes just once, sometiems 3 or 4 times in a row.

bad04srt · Post by **bad04srt** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 10:30 pm

my car had the same thing....just get cheapo wires from autozone.....you really dont have too many mods to be worrying about ignition yet so they will work fine for the price.....i put some NGK plugs in and no name Xact plug wires and i still noticed an increase.....dont pay for a name

TNK · Post by **TNK** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 11:42 pm

what NGKs did you use?

last time i bought no name plug wires, they cost me more than MSDs from modern wouldve cost me...

bad04srt · Post by **bad04srt** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 11:56 pm

i have the NGK v-powers and Xact wires for a total of $23

lilolneon · Post by **lilolneon** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 7:28 am

MSD = Less Volts than stock
Screamin Demon = Few more Volts than stock

I have some normal champion plugs in my car right now and some plug wires... damn i forgot the name... i know they not MSD or Accel... I had some NGK's in my old car fore i wrecked it... kinda makes me wish i had taken them out before i let em total it out... even more... i wish i had syphoned the gas outta the tank... i wrecked w/ a full fresh tank...

MoxHair · Post by **MoxHair** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 7:56 am

03sxt wrote:My '03 has been having these problems again, too.

I'm going to try new plugs... If those don't fix anything, I'm trading the car in. I just put in new plug wires 6 months ago.

Join the Darkside..

:Cough:SRT-4:Cough:

Panhead · Post by **Panhead** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 9:25 am

03sxt wrote:My '03 has been having these problems again, too.

thats not going to happen.

scneonchic · Post by **scneonchic** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 4:14 pm

xact wires?!?

03sxt · Post by **03sxt** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 6:18 pm

TNK wrote:Mike, you're effin kiddin me right?!?!?!

jerome, mine happens when i gas it... like hard acceleration, whether from a stop or from a low rpm in 2nd or 3rd gear, if i get on the gas really hard it stutters adn shakes the whole car...

oh, and it does it at idle, if you listen to my car idle, you can hear it miss, sometimes just once, sometiems 3 or 4 times in a row.

Yeah, I'm kidding. Sometimes I get frustrated at this problem and would like to, but that won't happen... At least not for another 2 or 3 years.

And yeah, that's extremely similar to my situation... Pretty much if I'm below 3,000 RPM and mash the gas (or even 3/4 acceleration), it almost feels like one cylinder completely shuts down and goes into Briggs & Stratton mode.

It's more of a cylinder miss than a stutter, though... A pain in the ass, that's for sure. And yep, mine does it during idle, too... Occasionally making the CAI tap against the side of the fenderwell.

TNK · Post by **TNK** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 1:23 pm

^that sounds like my problem..... exactly my problem.... bad01neon, any chance you got part numbers for those plug wires? the cheapest set my local autozone had were $32, and i dont have any money.

03sxt · Post by **03sxt** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 2:31 pm

I recently bought a set of Mopar Performance wires from Chris... I was hoping that was the problem... All I can say is that it corrected the problem for a little while.

MoxHair · Post by **MoxHair** » Sun Dec 17, 2006 12:49 am

It's a Neon..

thats how I explain it. lol

lilolneon · Post by **lilolneon** » Sun Dec 17, 2006 3:23 am

i just remembered what wires i have... I have magnecore wires

they work great too

03sxt · Post by **03sxt** » Sun Dec 17, 2006 8:40 am

I installed new Champion Copper plugs yesterday because I got bored... The car runs like new... For now. I guess we'll see how long that lasts.

I'll just do what kc2002acr does and change them with every oil change... Speaking of which...

EDIT: Oh yeah... Does it mean anything if the spark plugs I pulled from cylinder 1 and 2 were a bit wet with gas? 3 and 4 were bone dry and 1 and 2 were a bit wet and much hotter. I started with #4 and worked my way to #1, BTW, if that helps with anything... The car was sitting for about 30 minutes after driving about 6 miles.

Panhead · Post by **Panhead** » Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:10 am

03sxt wrote:I installed new Champion Copper plugs yesterday because I got bored... The car runs like new... For now. I guess we'll see how long that lasts.

i got less than 10k on my champions copper plugs...3 of them were toasted. did you try ngk iridium iv or v-power?

03sxt · Post by **03sxt** » Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:33 am

03neonSE wrote:i got less than 10k on my champions copper plugs...3 of them were toasted. did you try ngk iridium iv or v-power?

No, too broke at the moment... Maybe in a couple months when these start acting up.

skuttler · Post by **skuttler** » Sun Dec 17, 2006 4:02 pm

I just put in the ngk iridiums. My engine seems to be running smoother but i think the champions that were in it were shot and new champions would have done the same. I think a lot of noise/vibration/harshness problems can be fixed with new ignition stuff. My engine certainly is smoother with new plugs and msd wires. If you do get new wires stay away from the mopar performance ones. my friends acr had those and they kept popping off of the plugs and causing misfires. I gave him my cheap crappy autozone wires I had laying around and his misfire problem went away.

cgneon · Post by **cgneon** » Sun Dec 17, 2006 5:29 pm

had the same stutter on my 01, msd coil and wires from modern = no problems for over 4-5months now....

neonpla · Post by **neonpla** » Sun Dec 17, 2006 9:11 pm

TNK wrote:Mike, you're effin kiddin me right?!?!?!

jerome, mine happens when i gas it... like hard acceleration, whether from a stop or from a low rpm in 2nd or 3rd gear, if i get on the gas really hard it stutters adn shakes the whole car...

oh, and it does it at idle, if you listen to my car idle, you can hear it miss, sometimes just once, sometiems 3 or 4 times in a row.

its def. the plugs had the same thing in my old neon.