A Differnt Kind of Build (not really)

[01NeonSnooZer]

You guys who know about the old turbo cars from the late 80s and early 90s will probably like this.


I am planning what I can only describe as a "Heritage Acknowledgement" or "Bridge-gap". Basically, a new dodge vehicle that pays homage to the Turbocharged Dodge roots.

I own a 2001 Dodge Neon SE (PL body) with a 2.0 and a 5 speed. I am planning a turbo build using a 2.2 stroker crank from Indyheads.com. Now since this is the replacement for the P body, I am torn between using an SOHC Magnum head or a DOHC 1st Gen R/T head. These two head flow relativley the same. I like the fine tunability of the DOHC but the SOHC would be a more fitting tribute. I would like you're opinions on this.

Tell me what you think!

[01NeonSnooZer]

If you vote on this, please post a reply. I am also loking for feedback on this idea. Opinions, suggestions and just if you like the idea or not. I welcome everthing you have to say.


BRR, I expect you to vote and post, lol.

[occasional demons]

I voted DOHC because if they could have made them affordable then, you know they would've used them. Those cars bitch slapped everything in their class for a few years and they were working on some cool stuff that never seen production. (most likely due to emmisions and cost) Emissions are kinda what dampened the use of turbos till technology caught up. Turbos take heat away from the cat., unless pulling a decent load, but most drivng isn't under those condtions. Hence the superchargers by GM and Ford. Yes they take more power to run but from an emmisions standpoint they were/are an easier solution.

[racer12306]

So this 2.2 stroker is actually for the old 2.2 motor?

Or is this made for the 2.0 found in the neon?

[01NeonSnooZer]

It's for the 2.0 found in our neons. Go to the IndyHeads price guide, page 8 and look and the section that says "Cam & Cranks". At the very bottom of THAT section, you'll see the crank. Also, at the top of the page, the first listing is for a complete 2.2 stroker engine.

[01NeonSnooZer]

I voted DOHC because if they could have made them affordable then, you know they would've used them. Those cars bitch slapped everything in their class for a few years and they were working on some cool stuff that never seen production. (most likely due to emmisions and cost) Emissions are kinda what dampened the use of turbos till technology caught up. Turbos take heat away from the cat., unless pulling a decent load, but most drivng isn't under those condtions. Hence the superchargers by GM and Ford. Yes they take more power to run but from an emmisions standpoint they were/are an easier solution.

They did make some DOHC cars. The 1991-1993 Dodge Spirit R/T and the 1992/1993 Dodge Daytone IROC R/T both had a 2.2 DOHC with a head that was designed by Lotus and manufactured by MOPAR. They were rated @ 225hp from the factory but when Cindy @ FWDPerformance Dynoed a couple of em, stock, they put down 260 w/ high miles.

[racer12306]

Very cool. I thought Howell was the only one that offered the 2.2 crank.

Man that stuff is expensive though.

[jonnymopar]

I would guess that a Magnum head would simplify your electronics. As far as the old Dodge twin cams, unfortunately the P-body never came with any sort of a 16V except for serial #001 of the Shelby CSX, which came with the Turbo III engine and was given as a gift to the man himself, Carroll Shelby.

What's your overall picture looking like for this car? Are you going to use MegaSquirt? You going to boost it?

[occasional demons]

I voted DOHC because if they could have made them affordable then, you know they would've used them. Those cars bitch slapped everything in their class for a few years and they were working on some cool stuff that never seen production. (most likely due to emmisions and cost) Emissions are kinda what dampened the use of turbos till technology caught up. Turbos take heat away from the cat., unless pulling a decent load, but most drivng isn't under those condtions. Hence the superchargers by GM and Ford. Yes they take more power to run but from an emmisions standpoint they were/are an easier solution.

They did make some DOHC cars. The 1991-1993 Dodge Spirit R/T and the 1992/1993 Dodge Daytone IROC R/T both had a 2.2 DOHC with a head that was designed by Lotus and manufactured by MOPAR. They were rated @ 225hp from the factory but when Cindy @ FWDPerformance Dynoed a couple of em, stock, they put down 260 w/ high miles.

Yes, but these were priced higher than the masses could afford and I don't believe any were offered in non-turbo configuration, which would have lowered the cost and offered a boost in power over the base models, but more available than the turbo's pricewise. But then that was prolly a marketing ploy that ultimately cost them sales. Sorta like GM under powering the Opel GT for fear no one would buy Corvettes. Fools

[01NeonSnooZer]

Very cool. I thought Howell was the only one that offered the 2.2 crank.

Man that stuff is expensive though.

Not as expensive as going with a DCR 2.6 kit,lol.

I would guess that a Magnum head would simplify your electronics. As far as the old Dodge twin cams, unfortunately the P-body never came with any sort of a 16V except for serial #001 of the Shelby CSX, which came with the Turbo III engine and was given as a gift to the man himself, Carroll Shelby.

What's your overall picture looking like for this car? Are you going to use MegaSquirt? You going to boost it?

Yea, probably gonna do the research and go MS.

What kind of tribute to the old turbo cars would this be if it wasn't boosted? The P Bodys not having DOHC heads is why I wanna stick with the SOHC in my non.