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ODP - 1st gen alt the same???

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:22 am
by Adionik
Lorenzo racing thankfully made an ODP...good build from the looks of it. He modeled it after a 1st gen alternator though.


Will it work for us?

BTW I have an ATX and I get a super low 500 idle at almost ever stop light and when I come to a stop.

Will a UDP really fuck up my system? Make it stall, etc?

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 2:10 am
by gilly02le
nope, but you do need to make a small hole in your throttle plate, so you car stops that. Mine used to do this with the stock tb.. drilled a really really small hole, and went for a drive, decided to make it slightly bigger since it still dropped down more then i wanted.. in the end the hole is less then 1/8 of an inch, and i haven't seen the revs drop past 750 or so, in over 2 years..

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 2:12 am
by Adionik
I have a 60mm TB. I'm somewhat hesitant to do it. Isn't there an idle screw I can mess with? BTW do you know if the alternator is the same?

Thanks gilly :D

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 2:17 am
by gilly02le
yea i can see not wanting to put a hole in a 200+ dollar throttle body, lol.. try turning the idle screw up just a tiny bit at a time, and then go for a lap of the block, see how it idles, slowly but surely it should fix the problem, if it starts to pulse the revs a bit and then suddenly drop when you let off, its open too much and you need to close it back down a little...
About the alternator, im fairly sure you can use the pulley from a 1gn, but i'd like someone to back me up there.. since im not 100%

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 5:19 am
by Mopar00Neon
Yes, the pulley will fit. Alternators are 99% identical. There were some connector changes in 95/96/97+ but the alternator itself is the same.

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 6:57 am
by BlackRoseRacing
Mopar00Neon wrote:Yes, the pulley will fit. Alternators are 99% identical. There were some connector changes in 95/96/97+ but the alternator itself is the same.
Out of curiosity I went to look for some pics.....

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^^^ 99 neon sohc

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^^^ 2002 neon sohc

They do actually look the same, I'll be damned!

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 10:40 pm
by NickKo
Mopar00Neon wrote:Yes, the pulley will fit. Alternators are 99% identical. There were some connector changes in 95/96/97+ but the alternator itself is the same.
Agreed.
Actually, I *think* that only the '95-96's (and maybe some earlier '97's) are different. '98-99 should be exactly the same as far as connectors go.

-Nick

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 10:52 pm
by Hudson_Neon
it seems that they HAVE TO be the same. they're listed in both the 1gn ang 2gn sections on his site

EDIT: i'm ordering one on wednesday to go with the MPx UDP i'm ordering wednesday