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Spare key?
Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 9:56 pm
by slonoma98
Guys, I bought a 2000 Dodge Neon at a US auction and I'm exporting it to my country, Belize. The thing is, the car only came with one key. Someone told me that this model comes with a transponder key and that I can't get a spare one without taking the car to the dealership and having them cut one there and program it. The car is now on a ship on its way to Cayman before coming to Belize. Is there any other way of getting a spare key? Thanks.
Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 11:02 pm
by CU_rob
dude, mine is a 2001 and I went to Walmart. It took 5min. ... unless there is something else I'm unaware of, but I doubt it.
We are talking about a neon... not a lexus

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 11:10 pm
by Diablo0
Well... if you do have the transponder keys aka Sentry which i think you do and you only have one key, then yes you will need the dealer to program the key so the sentry module reconizes it and you'll be able to start the car. If you dont' have Sentry then yeah you can just go to any parts store or locksmith and have them copy your key, but if you do have sentry that key will not start the car.
Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 11:19 pm
by CU_rob
Hey jason, how do you know a sentry car from a non-sentry one?
Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 11:38 pm
by Spork
The "rubber" part will be grey instead of black.
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 2:15 am
by mospaxreton
Or try starting your car w/spare one that you got done, and see if your car stays on. It should start but will turn off in about 3-7 seconds ...
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 2:19 am
by J-Villa
my key is grey....seems like a normal key to me...but i have two...so it don't matter
Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 10:50 am
by slonoma98
Hmmm, I don't remember the color of the key. It is possible that 2000s came with sentry keys though, right?
Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 8:15 pm
by dblsg
hey, well guess what, i have transponder keys and didn't even know it.... whooohooo
Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 10:07 pm
by moparknighthawk
slonoma98 wrote:Hmmm, I don't remember the color of the key. It is possible that 2000s came with sentry keys though, right?
Mine did. I have the alarm and everything.

You can program a new key yourself but only if you already have 2 programmed keys. Otherwise you need to go to a dealer and pay them to program one.

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 3:23 pm
by slonoma98
Is there anyway of telling if the car came with a factory alarm? I didn't get an alarm key fob or anything. When you buy from auctions something is always missing.lol
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 5:04 pm
by moparknighthawk
slonoma98 wrote:Is there anyway of telling if the car came with a factory alarm? I didn't get an alarm key fob or anything. When you buy from auctions something is always missing.lol
Lock your car with the windows open. Now reach in and unlock the door and open it. If your alarmed, it will go off.

Trust me I did this at a car show by mistake.

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 5:40 pm
by WiTeOuT
I have a 2000 as well. And mine is a sentry equipped car. The difference is the key head as stated above. A Grey Head key with programming from the dealer will cost ya some $$$. But if you want a different route....try Ebay.
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 8:52 pm
by BlackRoseRacing
as stated in other forums, PM me your VIN and I'll tell you what you got....
Also if you DO have 2 of the grey keys you can program the car yourself. otherwise if you have only one key the dealer is going to have to hit it up with the DRB...
We charge $35.00 to program a key, other dealers might charge more or less....
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 11:39 am
by slonoma98
BlackRoseRacing I sent you a PM. I found a website that sells the key blanks, but they're aftermarket keys, would they work?
www.streetkeys.com is the site.
I tried locking the door and reaching in to open the door, but no alarm. I do have the blinking security light on the dash though. Does that mean anything?
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 4:24 pm
by BlackRoseRacing
As for the aftermarket keys....its a gamble. and the dealer probably wont program any key but there own.
As for the blinking light..yeas your car is equipped with the VTS security system. It might not be enabled though, the dealer has to turn it on for you.
When you go there to program your second key, they probably wont charge you to activate the VTS system.
Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 7:08 pm
by Swordfish2Cowboy
Can the dealer program a new sentry key without the old one just by using the VIN?
I've lost my only key, and the family doesn't know where it went to after I put it on the counter last night.

Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 8:17 pm
by INVUJerry
^^Yes.
Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 8:12 am
by Swordfish2Cowboy
Sweet. Hopefully someone has my key, I don't have the money to spend to have the dealer get anywhere near my car. lol
Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 1:46 pm
by Passt
I had two transponder keys, and now I only have one because of the alarm system I had installed. It goes off the signal of the key, but each key is different.
Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 2:20 pm
by Swordfish2Cowboy
So you've got to program the car to recognize the key? Oh, and my dad had my key but didn't know it until he got home and started looking for it! Hooray!

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 2:37 pm
by 04Slvrsrt4
got lucky on that one sword lol
Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 3:41 pm
by Danteneon
Just so you know...
I if you have one key and it is a sentry key, you need to bring the car to the dealer for them to program it. The key and the car need to "communicate" to each other via the DRBIII. A dealer cannot program a key without the car there.
Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 6:00 pm
by King Crab
Probably a silly ass question, but you know me........ Do the sentry keys ever die? Is there a battery encased inside? I only ask as my keys are over 8 years old now.
Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:39 pm
by occasional demons
IIRC there is just a chip in there, and the "antenna" around the ign. switch is what reads the chip. So the voltage required comes from your car's battery via the antenna. I could be wrong tho.
Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 10:40 pm
by Swordfish2Cowboy
04Slvrsrt4 wrote:got lucky on that one sword lol
Yeah no shit!
Danteneon wrote:Just so you know...
I if you have one key and it is a sentry key, you need to bring the car to the dealer for them to program it. The key and the car need to "communicate" to each other via the DRBIII. A dealer cannot program a key without the car there.
Crap, I should do that soon then. I really don't want to have my car towed to the dealer again because I can't use the key. Or rather can't find it. After the other night it doesn't leave my possession.
Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 12:54 am
by Danteneon
occasional demons wrote:IIRC there is just a chip in there, and the "antenna" around the ign. switch is what reads the chip. So the voltage required comes from your car's battery via the antenna. I could be wrong tho.
You are correct sir

I wouldn't worry David. I haven't ever sold a SKIM key (non remote type) for any reason other than replacing a lost one, or someone wanting an extra
Swordfish2Cowboy wrote:Crap, I should do that soon then. I really don't want to have my car towed to the dealer again because I can't use the key. Or rather can't find it. After the other night it doesn't leave my possession.
That's a good idea. We tell people that when they buy a new car. We sell the new SKIM/remote keys for $135.00 plus $45.00 for programing. When people get shocked at the price, we inform them that unless they have a back up key, the car needs to be towed to the dealership, and they will pay that price, plus towing, plus loss of work

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 1:00 am
by Swordfish2Cowboy
How about I just buy a bunch off ebay? I'll only need to program the first new ones, right? I need to get a new keyfob because the rubber ripped where my unlock button is. Might as well just replace it, they're cheap.
Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 1:11 am
by Danteneon
Like BRR said before, you take your chances with the e-bay keys. I have seen one so far, and it worked fine. I have heard from two other people that said the keys wouldn't take a program. So eh, it's a crap shoot. Plus some dealers won't even program non OEM keys. We sell the Neon keys for $50.50 iirc, plus $45.00 to program it. And the programing fee is for 1 or 20 keys.
And yes, once you have two keys in your possession you can program more (up to 8 ) yourself.
Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 2:02 pm
by King Crab
Danteneon wrote:occasional demons wrote:IIRC there is just a chip in there, and the "antenna" around the ign. switch is what reads the chip. So the voltage required comes from your car's battery via the antenna. I could be wrong tho.
You are correct sir

I wouldn't worry David. I haven't ever sold a SKIM key (non remote type) for any reason other than replacing a lost one, or someone wanting an extra

Thanks
occasional demons & Danteneon you guys rock. Peace of mind restored (more ways then one).
