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No, what he means is you could buy a brand new house for $15,000 - $20,000 back in the 60's.

The bad ass motherfucker of a car was $4000 - $5000.

racer12306 wrote:No, what he means is you could buy a brand new house for $15,000 - $20,000 back in the 60's.

The bad ass motherfucker of a car was $4000 - $5000.

Well yeah, that's what I'm saying too. Things are increasing in proportion. Only now it's $200,000.00, and a $50,000.00 Challenger

fixitmattman wrote:

OB wrote:You're joking right? The Ford Taurus is one of the shittiest most unreliable cars ever built. And it's reputation reflects that. Who cares about the SHO? That was just a faster version of a POS. The newer Taurus was ok, much better than the early 90's models, but lets be real, reputation is based on first impressions. Just like the Neon.

That's exactly the way people think about neons.

The taurus was the staple of rental fleets for a reason. Low cost, cheap to run, cheap to fix, kind sounds like the neon in a bigger car eh? I remember seeing a list of "Most Reliable Winter Beaters" and the taurus was near the top

Ford engines.. you just can't freaking kill 'em.

the bodies however....

i would love for a new neon. but i dont think so.
i belive dodge need something awd also something like a new srt4. well not the caliber srt4 a real srt4. that caliber was the worst move dodge has done. in my opinion guys

awd is not god. dodge doesn't need an awd car, they need to put themselves back in the compact market to compete with Civics, Corollas, etc.

racer12306 wrote:awd is not god. dodge doesn't need an awd car, they need to put themselves back in the compact market to compete with Civics, Corollas, etc.

yes i agree. but it would be nice to have a awd turbo srt ftw

racer12306 wrote:awd is not god. dodge doesn't need an awd car, they need to put themselves back in the compact market to compete with Civics, Corollas, etc.

I'll agree and raise you a quote from Ford's Euro Divison

"The decision not to pursue it had nothing to do with cost, [All-Wheel-Drive] increases the weight, the emissions and the fuel consumption. We were confident we could achieve everything we wanted to with front-wheel drive."

Donkeypuncher wrote:Allpar wrote a good article about what happened to the neon, and why it will probably never be made again: http://www.allpar.com/neon/engineering.html

That is an EXCELLENT article.
Thank you for posting that link.

- Nick

MoxHair wrote:The Neon is dead.

Build a bridge and Get the fuck over it.

NOOOOooooooooooooooo!

SOKADAO954 wrote:yes i agree. but it would be nice to have a awd turbo srt ftw

Also known as a Caliber SRT these days.

neonsox wrote:

SOKADAO954 wrote:yes i agree. but it would be nice to have a awd turbo srt ftw

Also known as a Caliber SRT these days.

FWD != AWD

The Caliber SRT is not AWD, only the R/T is which comes with an N/A 2.4 putting out ~170hp iirc and either a CVT or a 5 speed.

racer12306 wrote:The Caliber SRT is not AWD, only the R/T is which comes with an N/A 2.4 putting out ~170hp iirc and either a CVT or a 5 speed.

and it runs 0-60 in a Blazing 10seconds.

MoxHair wrote:

racer12306 wrote:The Caliber SRT is not AWD, only the R/T is which comes with an N/A 2.4 putting out ~170hp iirc and either a CVT or a 5 speed.

and it runs 0-60 in a Blazing 10seconds.

But it hauls groceries like a mofo!

If 0-60 is really 10 seconds (i wouldn't be surprised since Mox posts facts, not BS) then I bet my Neon hauls the groceries better than that

my cobalt hauls my freaking groceries at 0-60 in 5.8 seconds

well my monte will hopefully haul the groceries 0 - 60 in about 2-2.5 seconds

but are you actually going to get said groceries in said monte?

neonsox wrote:

SOKADAO954 wrote:yes i agree. but it would be nice to have a AWD turbo srt ftw

Also known as a Caliber SRT these days.

caliber = FWD

besides i dont even consider the caliber the new srt4.
worst car dodge has made IMO.

Opi wrote:but are you actually going to get said groceries in said monte?

Damn straight I would. It would be my "daily driver." When I need a car it would be my car."

racer12306 wrote:If 0-60 is really 10 seconds (i wouldn't be surprised since Mox posts facts, not BS) then I bet my Neon hauls the groceries better than that

edmunds.com wrote:The Caliber's 10.1-second 0-60-mph time was unimpressive. The last AWD Toyota Matrix we tested returned 11 seconds with a much wimpier 1.8-liter, 123-hp engine. At the end of the quarter-mile, the gap shrunk to only 0.4 second, but 49 horsepower should produce a bigger advantage. Heck, a Toyota Prius gets to 60 in 10.4 seconds.

No B.S. here. The Caliber R/T has brought great shame to the R/T name plate.

Ouch, my prius run's with a Caliber R/T. Thats bad.

main reason I used that quote Franko

racer12306 wrote:Ouch, my prius run's with a Caliber R/T. Thats bad.

u have a prius??
i hate them no ofence.
looks like a lunch box.

ugh

SOKADAO954 wrote: no ofence.

Entire argument: discredited.

I agree that there will prob never be another NEON but Dodge def needs to make another small compact car. The caliber in my opinion isn't all that great. To be honest, I'd rather have a Cobalt or Focus for domestics cars and a civic, corolla, tc, or jetta for others. I would like to see an actual car called DODGE SRT4 (not caliber srt4) and to have it take on the body concept of the neon in a way but obviously with new upgrades

You'll be lucky if dodge is even here in the next 10 years.

yellowpatrol wrote:

MoxHair wrote:

racer12306 wrote:The Caliber SRT is not AWD, only the R/T is which comes with an N/A 2.4 putting out ~170hp iirc and either a CVT or a 5 speed.

and it runs 0-60 in a Blazing 10seconds.

But it hauls groceries in the snow like a mofo!

Improved it slightly.

SOKADAO954 wrote:

racer12306 wrote:Ouch, my prius run's with a Caliber R/T. Thats bad.

u have a prius??
i hate them no ofence.
looks like a lunch box.

Ok Achmed