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why

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 10:48 pm
by alsey_seven
why is this different then normal 2.0 engines my stock 2.0 had a skinny small plastic hose


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Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 11:54 pm
by occasional demons
Looks to be just some kind of protection or insulation.
Why? I have no clue.

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 6:55 am
by heydockyle
Yea just something for dress up. If you look closer to where the pcv goes into the valve cover you'll see it's the same size as ours.

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:33 am
by Donkeypuncher
It's just a generic insulation kit, probably a dealer add on in a hotter region to get more $$ from a buyer.

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:32 pm
by gilly02le
every r/t and Acr i have ever seen, has that cover over the pcv hose. They also seem to use a rubber hose, and not the hard plastic line like base models have.

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:38 pm
by racer12306
mine isn't hard plastic line.

the breather tube is, but not the pcv tube.

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:40 pm
by OB
Definitely just a cover/wrap. Pretty obvious if you trace it near the valve cover.

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:51 pm
by Danteneon
My ACR had that too. The tube gets quite warm, so I believe it's just a thermal/abrasion sleeve.

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:31 pm
by freetibet
My R/t had that too!!!

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 10:02 pm
by occasional demons
Danteneon wrote:My ACR had that too. The tube gets quite warm.
The thing is, it gets heated from the air exiting the VC, not neccesarily from outside heat. The air temp comming from the VC is going to be pretty close to oil temp, I would think, since that's whats flowing the most in there.
I'm not sure why they want to insulate it. Not like the oil vapor is going to cool and condense in that short run.

Meh, it's just one of those "WTF were the engineers thinking that day" mysteries.

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 10:09 pm
by OB
^Yeah I agree. If it was important they would have kept it. Probably something they thought worked but decided it wasn't worth the extra x-amount of money to keep it in production.

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 10:15 pm
by Danteneon
Acctually, it isn't just the oil temp, but heat from the aluminum manifold. It would carry a lot of heat up that tube. I removed the cover off it a while back, and if you arm came in contact with it you would know pretty quick.

I think it's a CYA thing.

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 10:42 pm
by occasional demons
But remember, the manifold is sucking air from that tube not pushing air into it, (unless there is boost involved). :D

So manifold temp does not come into play unless you want to consider heat soak. The heat is comming from the cyl. head.

But since it's been a while, we'll let you knock some of that rust loose. :twisted:

It only gets worse with age, not as old friend. :thumbup:
EDIT:
:stickpoke:

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 10:57 pm
by Danteneon
Ah, but I do want to consider heat soak. Drive two Neons (one a Magnum and one non) for the same amount of time. Park them and take a reading of the manifold temp. Or better yet, touch them. I'll wait......


Hmmm. Why does the Magnum manifold make your skin smell like BBQ?

All I know is that they get very hot, and so does that tube.

So neener neener neener *waves cane in someone's general direction*

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:06 am
by occasional demons
Dante > :beatstick: Me > :runaway:

Careful! My bones are brittle!

Yes heat soak does pwn an aluminum IM.

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 10:16 am
by Danteneon
:rofl: OK, I'll be gentle. (Where have I heard that before?)

Trust me, I was quite surprised the first time I encountered the heat on that tube. While it isn't as bad as I made it out to be above, it does get hot enough for some no-commonsense-having idiot to seek compensation from Chrysler for his or her discomfort.

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 12:23 pm
by occasional demons
Danteneon wrote::rofl: OK, I'll be gentle. (Where have I heard that before?)
:shock: OH, SHIT! :aargh: