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Well my car has seemed a little different then usual. So I decided to change the spark plugs. Well once I got them out I found them looking like this.
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetod ... F5NTQx.jpg
They are in the order as they came out of the car. Are they suppose to look llike this? Because the last set I pulled did not. The car did set all night last night and then i started it up for about 5 mins to move it into the garage. Maybe that has something to do with it? I don't know. Fill me in guys
-Brian
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetod ... F5NTQx.jpg
They are in the order as they came out of the car. Are they suppose to look llike this? Because the last set I pulled did not. The car did set all night last night and then i started it up for about 5 mins to move it into the garage. Maybe that has something to do with it? I don't know. Fill me in guys
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notice the brown marks on the ceramic, thats why I have been telling people to get away from the champ plugs. What you see is the ceramic seperating from the base as I said many times.
The look of brown flared upwards is your spark and compression leaking... so you want to run champs again? this is why I say NO!!!
switch your plugs to NGK copper or Iridiums!!!!
Ive got over 30k+ on my iridiums, and have had no problems....
The look of brown flared upwards is your spark and compression leaking... so you want to run champs again? this is why I say NO!!!
switch your plugs to NGK copper or Iridiums!!!!
Ive got over 30k+ on my iridiums, and have had no problems....
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I have never had that problem with Champion plugs in over 135,000 miles so far. I think its how you drive your car and the load you put on it. Maybe racing has something to do with it.ilpadrino wrote:Are these readily available at local auto stores? Or only online like Howell or Modern? I'm coming up on replacing spark plugs and wires (along with the battery in my other post).BlackRoseRacing wrote:switch your plugs to NGK copper or Iridiums!!!!
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yeah i am pretty had on mine at least 4-5 times a day. gotta have a little fun in it hehe. well i threw the champs in there for now, but what local store sells the ngk plugs that i need?
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i got ngk v-powers from advance auto. $1.68/ea
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Well this is the first time this has happened in about 3 yrs so it isn't like an every time thing. but i believe i am at least gonna give the v-powers a try...anyone got the exact part number so i dont have to mess with the counter guys for longer then needs be.
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3" Maxxfab SEE, S2 WGA, Mopar BOV Plate, Fighters CAI, Samco IC Hoses, QW's DF IC, Hotchkis Sways
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i believe that this is the part number: BKR6E
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NGK > ALL
and as far as changing the spark plugs..scneonchic id say go ahead and do it. it has been some time since the last one and your car will like you better for some new fresh ones they are only like 6 or 7 dollars so it wouldnt hurt to do it. i usualy change mine every 3,000 or so to keep them fresh.
and as far as changing the spark plugs..scneonchic id say go ahead and do it. it has been some time since the last one and your car will like you better for some new fresh ones they are only like 6 or 7 dollars so it wouldnt hurt to do it. i usualy change mine every 3,000 or so to keep them fresh.
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Is there a difference between the iridums and v-powers, and if so what is it?
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Rest In Peace Brian
February 20, 1985 - August 21, 2012
2004 Black "KNEE YAWN" SRT-4
3" Maxxfab SEE, S2 WGA, Mopar BOV Plate, Fighters CAI, Samco IC Hoses, QW's DF IC, Hotchkis Sways
Soon to come:
Werks rear Strut Bar
2001 Red Neon R/T**Gone**
Rest In Peace Brian
February 20, 1985 - August 21, 2012
2004 Black "KNEE YAWN" SRT-4
3" Maxxfab SEE, S2 WGA, Mopar BOV Plate, Fighters CAI, Samco IC Hoses, QW's DF IC, Hotchkis Sways
Soon to come:
Werks rear Strut Bar
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platinums degrade under forced induction app's. Thats why alot of imports are leaning towards the iridium plug.....
The platinum plug is suppose to be good for 100k miles, but in N/A ap's only. The iridium had no mileage tested, but its supposed to last longer than the plat under N/A use...plus iridium does not break down like plat's under boost...
Ive got my iridiums runing over 30k between 3 motors and 2 cars...
The platinum plug is suppose to be good for 100k miles, but in N/A ap's only. The iridium had no mileage tested, but its supposed to last longer than the plat under N/A use...plus iridium does not break down like plat's under boost...
Ive got my iridiums runing over 30k between 3 motors and 2 cars...
Accel u-groove
Accel U-grove....Are these plugs any good? I believe both Howell and Modern sell them.
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Accel U-grooves:
I used them once, and returned them the same day I installed them. I actually installed them in the parking lot of advance auto, started my car, revved it a couple times and then the car started missing and backfiring. I yanked the plugs out to see 2 were fouled out already....
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1984 Plymouth Reliant wagon
Engine: 2.2 - modded head/block/intake/ - 4BBL 650 holley
Transmission - conerted to 5speed after blowing 3 ATX's
Exhaust - 2 1/2 inch turbo daytona Ex with a dynomax muffler
Body - Walmart primer/quarter glass filled in/stock steel wheels
Interior - few gauges/amps and Eq's mounted on the inside of rear quarter glass
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I used them once, and returned them the same day I installed them. I actually installed them in the parking lot of advance auto, started my car, revved it a couple times and then the car started missing and backfiring. I yanked the plugs out to see 2 were fouled out already....
The car
1984 Plymouth Reliant wagon
Engine: 2.2 - modded head/block/intake/ - 4BBL 650 holley
Transmission - conerted to 5speed after blowing 3 ATX's
Exhaust - 2 1/2 inch turbo daytona Ex with a dynomax muffler
Body - Walmart primer/quarter glass filled in/stock steel wheels
Interior - few gauges/amps and Eq's mounted on the inside of rear quarter glass
Engine:
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Exterior:
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ok.....
One:
As many people have stated, its all based on experience.....
I ran a 2.2 a lil rich with Accels and they sucked, I ended up running NGK's..
Two:
On my R/T....driving like I always do, I got better MPG with 87 octane and Prestone 0-60 than I did running just 89octane.
The past week or 2 ive been running 91 Sunoco and ive been getting around 25mpg. I actually got better mpg with the 87 w/booster and the power was the same as 93 octane w/o booster.
Right now im running 93 octane KwickFill and averaging over 28mpg...mmm
As it stands right now, I get the same mpg and power running 87 w/ Prestone 0-60 or 93 octane KwickFill. Mobil or sunoco fuel was a different story. I used more Mobil fuel than Sunoco...but the Sunoco fuel makes the car run different, like a different animal. Agh, the best way to describe it is compare a Lamb to a BULL. The BULL has more ass Vs the lamb....
On to Three:
The upper motor mount.......
So far the best improvement was shifting, it seems a hell of alot more tighter. As for the wheel hop, its the same...
Im in the process of working on filling my mounts the CHEAP way...
I'm hoping on having it done this weekend, then have someone ask me for any results next week...
Rescently I just had my PS pump replaced, and my SERP belt tensioner replaced. I was tired of the PS growl, wich ended up being my Serp belt tensioner. Its pretty bad when you start your car, your baby and pride and joy...and all you hear is a PS pump growl....damn it...
In my case, it was not the pump....go figure....
One:
As many people have stated, its all based on experience.....
I ran a 2.2 a lil rich with Accels and they sucked, I ended up running NGK's..
Two:
On my R/T....driving like I always do, I got better MPG with 87 octane and Prestone 0-60 than I did running just 89octane.
The past week or 2 ive been running 91 Sunoco and ive been getting around 25mpg. I actually got better mpg with the 87 w/booster and the power was the same as 93 octane w/o booster.
Right now im running 93 octane KwickFill and averaging over 28mpg...mmm
As it stands right now, I get the same mpg and power running 87 w/ Prestone 0-60 or 93 octane KwickFill. Mobil or sunoco fuel was a different story. I used more Mobil fuel than Sunoco...but the Sunoco fuel makes the car run different, like a different animal. Agh, the best way to describe it is compare a Lamb to a BULL. The BULL has more ass Vs the lamb....
On to Three:
The upper motor mount.......
So far the best improvement was shifting, it seems a hell of alot more tighter. As for the wheel hop, its the same...
Im in the process of working on filling my mounts the CHEAP way...
I'm hoping on having it done this weekend, then have someone ask me for any results next week...
Rescently I just had my PS pump replaced, and my SERP belt tensioner replaced. I was tired of the PS growl, wich ended up being my Serp belt tensioner. Its pretty bad when you start your car, your baby and pride and joy...and all you hear is a PS pump growl....damn it...
In my case, it was not the pump....go figure....
Do you know the sparplug $ of the NGK cooper for the neon?
i've been running champions and yeah they usually have that carbon int he isolator.
i've been running champions and yeah they usually have that carbon int he isolator.
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lol sorry, wrong symbol, i meant part #, not "$"BlackRoseRacing wrote:Depending on where you go, its anywhere from $1.20-$1.80 per lug for coppers...
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the ngk number is: BKR6E (for the 132hp 2.0 if there is a difference)
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all those black rings, are exhuast sute, tighten your spark plugs better and that shit wwill stop, has nothing to do wiht the brand.
i run champions all the time, did when i had nitrous too. never gace me a problem. an dyes ive run nkg's. ive even run beru 2 steps hotter, cuz i had them form my old allmotor car. spark plugs really dont change much, a good working cheap plug, is worth about as muhc as a good working pricy plug.
i run champions all the time, did when i had nitrous too. never gace me a problem. an dyes ive run nkg's. ive even run beru 2 steps hotter, cuz i had them form my old allmotor car. spark plugs really dont change much, a good working cheap plug, is worth about as muhc as a good working pricy plug.
Yes but NGK coopers are cheap ones, and apprently they are better.unsuper man wrote:all those black rings, are exhuast sute, tighten your spark plugs better and that shit wwill stop, has nothing to do wiht the brand.
i run champions all the time, did when i had nitrous too. never gace me a problem. an dyes ive run nkg's. ive even run beru 2 steps hotter, cuz i had them form my old allmotor car. spark plugs really dont change much, a good working cheap plug, is worth about as muhc as a good working pricy plug.
i change my own sparkplugs, they are tightened properly and ive seen those carbon marks.
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2.5 direct exhaust, PVC CAI, PT clutch, Crane 14, 5point seats & harnesses, 8 point FIA roll cage, AF/X race ecu, Dropzone coilovers, Hotchkis swaybars, Crane valve springs, Autogage 5" tach shiftlite, .020" head shaving, custom long tube header, wilwood 12" Big Brake Kit.
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