Big brake kits

OB · Post by OB » Thu Jan 12, 2006 12:30 am

my buddy has an AEM big brake kit on his 98 prelude and it stops like nobodys business. if i had the skrilla to do that id go for it. how silly would it look to have 14" rotors up front and like 7" drums in the back from a side view? thats 75% reason why the rear disc would be cool if u ask me. the neon brakes are great stock. do hawk pads ruin stock rotors? i think they make street and race versions right? id figure the street ones to NOT warp rotors? anyone?

rice_eater · Post by **rice_eater** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 12:40 am

orangeblastsxt wrote: the neon brakes are great stock. do hawk pads ruin stock rotors? i think they make street and race versions right? id figure the street ones to NOT warp rotors? anyone?

i think the OEM brakes and tires are quite shitty... neither of the hawk pads will damage the OEM rotors, that's the one part of the system that's really good. Powerslot rotors are actually OEM rotors slotted by powerslot and i really like them. i ate through a pair of hawk HP+ pads in less than 4 months with those rotors, but they were in such good shape that i simply slapped on a new set of pads and drove off. its very worth it for me coz they really put the stock setup to shame

Frizbe · Post by **Frizbe** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 12:45 am

orangeblastsxt wrote:my buddy has an AEM big brake kit on his 98 prelude and it stops like nobodys business. if i had the skrilla to do that id go for it. how silly would it look to have 14" rotors up front and like 7" drums in the back from a side view? thats 75% reason why the rear disc would be cool if u ask me. the neon brakes are great stock. do hawk pads ruin stock rotors? i think they make street and race versions right? id figure the street ones to NOT warp rotors? anyone?

LOL thats what I thought (about the stock brakes) then I test drove a few cars and in the Jetta I almost hit the streering wheel because I was driving it like I would drive the Neon. Of course I also sent the traction control into fits, but thats another story.

OB · Post by OB » Thu Jan 12, 2006 12:53 am

ok the tires are terrible, but honestly the stock brake system owns the other cars in its class X2. believe me. so you recommend hawks on stock rotors? i was thinkin about the powerslots, theyre on my neverending list lol. my car is gonna be hoooked up when its done my mods list is 100 items long and falling.

Baal · Post by **Baal** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 1:25 am

About the jetta > neon brakes mmm.. theres one way to "cheat" and make a car look like it has better brakes, for example:

My mom's Honda Accord, you touch the brakes and you almost hit the steering wheel, however that doesnt mean they have good breaks.

In my neon with hawk hp+ pads & brembo rotors i feel a much slower braking, but if we compare both ofcourse the neon will stop much faster, but its a much more progressive braking feel, while hondas and V.W. are not progressive at all.

The jetta is heavier than the Neon, the brakes arent that great and im almost positive that you will stop faster or atleast in the same distance than a jetta however in racing conditions you WANT a progressive brake.

Ever seen the JGTC series with the pedal camera?, lol the brake pedal is so weird, it has huge travel and it looks like the 70% of the first part of the pedal travel does nothing, but it does, but it does it very linear, unlike other cars wich you touch them and they are already braking with everything they've got.

Frizbe · Post by **Frizbe** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 1:27 am

Baal wrote:About the jetta > neon brakes mmm.. theres one way to "cheat" and make a car look like it has better brakes, for example:

My mom's Honda Accord, you touch the brakes and you almost hit the steering wheel, however that doesnt mean they have good breaks.

In my neon with hawk hp+ pads & brembo rotors i feel a much slower braking, but if we compare both ofcourse the neon will stop much faster, but its a much more progressive braking feel, while hondas and V.W. are not progressive at all.

The jetta is heavier than the Neon, the brakes arent that great and im almost positive that you will stop faster or atleast in the same distance than a jetta however in racing conditions you WANT a progressive brake.

Ever seen the JGTC series with the pedal camera?, lol the brake pedal is so weird, it has huge travel and it looks like the 70% of the first part of the pedal travel does nothing, but it does, but it does it very linear, unlike other cars wich you touch them and they are already braking with everything they've got.

I donno I have ABS, but now it stops even harder, I think it might have to do w/ the vacum line I cut by accident installing my boost gauge though

Baal · Post by **Baal** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 1:27 am

orangeblastsxt wrote:ok the tires are terrible, but honestly the stock brake system owns the other cars in its class X2. believe me. so you recommend hawks on stock rotors? i was thinkin about the powerslots, theyre on my neverending list lol. my car is gonna be hoooked up when its done my mods list is 100 items long and falling.

I wouldnt recommend HP+ for the street, they squeal like a school bus all day long and you will have black rims all the time, go for the street ones.

About powerslots, i'd say go for the brembos, they go for $104 BOTH on e-bay, and they brembo doesnt produce crap.

OB · Post by OB » Thu Jan 12, 2006 2:21 am

104 for brembos no shit? thanks ill def look into it. dont some company make pads that have light colored dust? but then again, im gettin black wheels so who knows lol

dblsg · Post by **dblsg** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 2:23 am

i don't think i have ever come accross brembos on eBay. damn, i guess i gotta look harder now. 104!! thats a good ass deal.

rice_eater · Post by **rice_eater** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 12:35 pm

there are lots of knockoffs on ebay like you all know, but if you get them that cheap then i lift my hat to you. orangeblast, powerslot rotors cost as much as new OEM rotors so you might aswell go aftermarket. i cant see how Baal can possibly stop slower with his brake setup, but if anything i'm betting it's those crossdrilled rotors with less surface area doing that. yes HP+ makes tons of dust and having slotted disks eating away the pad doesnt help either, but you stop hard. i only tried the hawk hps pads on my first gen w/ new OEM rotors and though it stopped better, it wasnt the night and day difference that you get from the HP+ (but they lasted over a year and still have lots of pad material left, where like i said, the HP+ lasted me like 4 months)

Baal · Post by **Baal** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 6:37 pm

rice_eater wrote:there are lots of knockoffs on ebay like you all know, but if you get them that cheap then i lift my hat to you. orangeblast, powerslot rotors cost as much as new OEM rotors so you might aswell go aftermarket. i cant see how Baal can possibly stop slower with his brake setup, but if anything i'm betting it's those crossdrilled rotors with less surface area doing that. yes HP+ makes tons of dust and having slotted disks eating away the pad doesnt help either, but you stop hard. i only tried the hawk hps pads on my first gen w/ new OEM rotors and though it stopped better, it wasnt the night and day difference that you get from the HP+ (but they lasted over a year and still have lots of pad material left, where like i said, the HP+ lasted me like 4 months)

i never said i stopped slower, i stop faster, i was talking that it doesnt feel like hoda's brake, that you slightly touch them and you bite the steering wheel, its a much more progessive feel, that to the inexperienced driving might feel like it brakes less because it doesnt bite that fast.

rice_eater · Post by **rice_eater** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 8:49 pm

Baal wrote: In my neon with hawk hp+ pads & brembo rotors i feel a much slower braking...

sorry, maybe i misunderstood that then

Baal · Post by **Baal** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 8:52 pm

rice_eater wrote:
Baal wrote: In my neon with hawk hp+ pads & brembo rotors i feel a much slower braking...
sorry, maybe i misunderstood that then

this is the entire quote ; )

In my neon with hawk hp+ pads & brembo rotors i feel a much slower braking, but if we compare both ofcourse the neon will stop much faster,

rice_eater · Post by **rice_eater** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 12:35 am

Baal wrote:
rice_eater wrote:
Baal wrote: In my neon with hawk hp+ pads & brembo rotors i feel a much slower braking...
sorry, maybe i misunderstood that then
this is the entire quote ; )

In my neon with hawk hp+ pads & brembo rotors i feel a much slower braking, but if we compare both ofcourse the neon will stop much faster,

which makes less sense like that...

Baal · Post by **Baal** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 3:55 am

lol shut up

grambo · Post by **grambo** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 11:48 am

I had Powerslots/Hawk on my 97' Avenger and it ate em' when I was commuting. Like a 3 month lifespan.
Though Canadian, (insert Terrence and Philip joke here!

), my KVR's have held up excellently to a rough commute with the Hawk street pads. Car stops like evrything is still brand new.

Check out TCE brakes online. Stoptech has a kit for SRT-4 Willwood has some items too. Gotta' buy big/deep wheels though.

My setup was a nice compromise between stock and dumping $1,000's into my brakes.

teamliviD · Post by **teamliviD** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 3:04 pm

i just picked up pt knucles, calipers and brake lines for $60 from a junk yard!

speedyrb29 · Post by **speedyrb29** » Sat Jan 14, 2006 6:01 pm

i can get the front ande rear srt-4 brakes for like 350 is that overpriced?

Baal · Post by **Baal** » Sat Jan 14, 2006 6:23 pm

speedyrb29 wrote:i can get the front ande rear srt-4 brakes for like 350 is that overpriced?

i think its a fair price.

grambo · Post by **grambo** » Mon Jan 16, 2006 1:08 pm

noob question: SRT-4 brakes are different than Neon R/T - ACR? I'm havin' a brainfart and cannot remember.......

Post by **Diablo0** » Mon Jan 16, 2006 2:08 pm

grambo wrote:noob question: SRT-4 brakes are different than Neon R/T - ACR? I'm havin' a brainfart and cannot remember.......

Fronts are different, rears are about 99% the same... only difference is the thicker rotors and MAYBE the pads.

grambo · Post by **grambo** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 10:04 am

That was vague..........kidding. Ok so they are bigger dia. rotor and such? Or just a thicker rotor? I know the Goodridge lines are the same P/N etc. Oh, well. Doesn't matter my brakes are done except the lines. Donations anyone? I gotta' buy a rifle for my boy, no $$ (kidding again, too much coffee)

rice_eater · Post by **rice_eater** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 10:48 am

they are just thicker, just how our front rotors are ever so slightly thicker than the first gens