Motor Mounts.....

Silver2gn4me · Post by **Silver2gn4me** » Sun Jan 29, 2006 10:26 pm

I just noticed today that my upper mount might need to be replaced. One of the rubber pieces is not connected to the middle metal part. The rubber is also pretty cracked. Can I put inserts in to fix, of do I need to replace mount and then do inserts? If I can just do inserts, which ones should I get. I know there are a couple of options for us now. Thanks.

scneonchic · Post by **scneonchic** » Sun Jan 29, 2006 11:37 pm

You can just do inserts... http://www.modernperformance.com/dcx/pl2000_index.shtml

Prothane Motor Mount Inserts RACE (harder urethane) and STREET (softer urethane) forms Red or Black
$23.99

Available in STREET and RACE version. Street inserts are designed to make motor mounts to last longer, Race inserts are designed for better traction, less wheel hop.

or you could do solid dogbone style mounts like i have..there are a few companies that make them for the srt, but they will fit our neons too...AGP, PSI-FI (I have these) but you feel every vibration w/ them, and pay a bit more, in the neighborhood of $125-$150, but worth it over just the inserts IMO

I think alot of the people on here have the prothane inserts though, and like them...Im sure there are more companies that make the inserts too.

nodestiny · Post by **nodestiny** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 9:23 am

You can also fill your mounts. I have filled COMPLETELY BROKEN mounts before and it work great!

Budget way = Hot glue. Search it (its in the how to i beleive). Quite a bit of vibration, but very ltitle wheel hop. Quick and easy, VERY cheap ($4?)

Good way = buy 60a or 80a shore Liquid Urethane and fill. Little vibration, reduces wheel hop pretty well. 2 days drying time, around $30.

Mopar00Neon · Post by **Mopar00Neon** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 1:37 pm

I have Deyeme flex mounts in my car. Inserts, I noticed caused more vibrations than Deyeme filled mounts, and the dog-bone style mounts are illegal for STS and STX class cars, as they add metal/remove bushing material from the stock mount. Which was my main concern.

Silver2gn4me · Post by **Silver2gn4me** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 9:00 pm

So I dont have to replace the whole mount? Sweet!! I think I am might get the Prothane inserts. Who sells the Deyeme mounts?? How much are they??

Mopar00Neon · Post by **Mopar00Neon** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 9:18 pm

http://deyemeracing.com/

Silver2gn4me · Post by **Silver2gn4me** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 9:32 pm

Thanks!!

FTWNeon · Post by **FTWNeon** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 10:30 pm

Mopar00Neon wrote:I have Deyeme flex mounts in my car. Inserts, I noticed caused more vibrations than Deyeme filled mounts, and the dog-bone style mounts are illegal for STS and STX class cars, as they add metal/remove bushing material from the stock mount. Which was my main concern.

I totally missed this part when I was going over the rulebook. I have Psi-Fi right now upper and lower right now but I'm going to be taking them off because its more vibration then I'd like when starting from a stop during everyday driving.

With the deyeme mounts, would you guys recommend get just the upper and lower or getting the tranny mount as well. I'm building my car up for STS and only got the Psi-Fi's because I got them for a good price and was buying alot of stuff from a guy.

Silver2gn4me · Post by **Silver2gn4me** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 10:47 pm

So I can run inserts in STS? I am gonna start autocrossing again this year and dont want to run in DSP.

FTWNeon · Post by **FTWNeon** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 10:49 pm

Engine mounts may be replaced, but must attach in the factory location(s) without additional modification or changes. Engine position may not be changed. The volume of metal in a replacement mount may not be increased relative to the volume of metal found in a stock mount for the particular application. Solid metal mounts are specifically prohibited. Any non-metallic inserts may be used.

Inserts can be used.

Silver2gn4me · Post by **Silver2gn4me** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 10:55 pm

OK good. Cause I need them. Thanks man!!

nodestiny · Post by **nodestiny** » Tue Jan 31, 2006 11:40 am

But if you want the best, filled mounts are better

hehehe

Mopar00Neon · Post by **Mopar00Neon** » Tue Jan 31, 2006 12:33 pm

nodestiny wrote:But if you want the best, filled mounts are better hehehe

Agreed. If youre going to spend the money, go with Deyeme. They were one of my first mods done to every neon Ive owned. They are a little expensive but WELL worth the price. And you never have to worry about them going out/tearing.

FTWNeon · Post by **FTWNeon** » Tue Jan 31, 2006 12:48 pm

Mopar00Neon wrote:
nodestiny wrote:But if you want the best, filled mounts are better hehehe
Agreed. If youre going to spend the money, go with Deyeme. They were one of my first mods done to every neon Ive owned. They are a little expensive but WELL worth the price. And you never have to worry about them going out/tearing.

Did you get just the upper and lower or did you get the tranny as well? I'm debating if i should get the tranny mount.

Mopar00Neon · Post by **Mopar00Neon** » Tue Jan 31, 2006 12:57 pm

I did upper and lower and tranny mount.

The tranny mount is the most difficult to replace, but I can do all 3 in about 20-30 minutes.

nodestiny · Post by **nodestiny** » Tue Jan 31, 2006 2:41 pm

Unless you have a lack of tools and knowledge like myself

The tranny mount was a pain to get to, i ended up leaving it (but will return to fill it eventualy!)

Top mount = 2 bolts, put new one in, eay as that! Less than 5 minutes

Bottom mount = jack up pass side remove tire, remove a few bolts, and bolt new one back in.

BlackRoseRacing · Post by **BlackRoseRacing** » Tue Jan 31, 2006 6:48 pm

ill sell u my stock upper for $5 plus shipping

Silver2gn4me · Post by **Silver2gn4me** » Tue Jan 31, 2006 10:27 pm

What year is your car?? How many miles on mount?? What mounts do you have now?? Mopar, did you do complete mount or just inserts?? If I am gonna run STS I have to stay with insertsor filled. So which would be the best? Prothane or Deyeme?? Any body have pics of these instslled??

Mopar00Neon · Post by **Mopar00Neon** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 4:37 am

I have compleat mounts. I never put inserts in my 2000. Learned well before it that I dont like inserts.

I vote Deyeme, all the way.

BlackRoseRacing · Post by **BlackRoseRacing** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 6:59 am

its my stock upper mount from my 02 r/t...
I replaced it with this:

NAPA for $10-$12 - part#620-1496

It helped a bit, but nothing to really brag about. Definately noticed less engine rock with it...

Silver2gn4me · Post by **Silver2gn4me** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 8:50 pm

What did you get from NAPA? The mount?? How much is shipping to 28278? I have to get the money in my paypal account.

scneonchic · Post by **scneonchic** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 9:12 pm

I think he means his stock mount is for sale, not the one he got from NAPA...he has the part number and price up there too

Silver2gn4me · Post by **Silver2gn4me** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 9:24 pm

Yea I know he is selling his stock mount. That is what I was asking shipping for...oopps.... So he got that mount from NAPA??

BlackRoseRacing · Post by **BlackRoseRacing** » Fri Feb 03, 2006 5:36 am

^^^
yup, its for a GM application, I tried to find a similiar dogbone for the lower mount, but they could not find a listing for one as long as our lower mount..

Silver2gn4me · Post by **Silver2gn4me** » Fri Feb 03, 2006 9:50 am

Sweet I might try that down the road. Thanks for all the help people!!!

03blackrt · Post by **03blackrt** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 5:19 pm

Oh my, it's a resurrection...

BlackRoseRacing wrote:its my stock upper mount from my 02 r/t...
I replaced it with this:

NAPA for $10-$12 - part#620-1496

It helped a bit, but nothing to really brag about. Definately noticed less engine rock with it...

So did this GM mount worth it? Any long-term reports on it. I'm thinking maybe some round polyurethane bushings could replace the rubber ones and make for a cheap upper strut dogbone.