Will lowering my neon look goofy without... *pics now* *56k*

J8t4m · Post by **J8t4m** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 8:50 am

dont those big fuzzy dice get in the way ?

OB · Post by OB » Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:23 am

^lmao. dude those add up to 25hp didnt you know that?! jk dice are tight

scneonchic · Post by **scneonchic** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:26 am

I hate when people say one thing, then come back and say the complete oposite.....anyways....if you get aftermarket fenders and body kit, its worth it to spend a bit more. you get what you pay for in that situation, and even then it might be a pain to get it to fit right, esp with fiberglass.

Extremedemensions.com sells nice quality kits.

dblsg · Post by **dblsg** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 11:40 am

scneonchic501 wrote:I hate when people say one thing, then come back and say the complete oposite.....

LMFAO!!!!

INVUJerry · Post by **INVUJerry** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 12:55 pm

I've been arguing with myself to lower my car or not....lower it or not.... I think I have decided not to lower it, because I scrape too much stuff on a regular basis. If I lower my car, I'll totally get it all fudged up.

Wisher2 · Post by **Wisher2** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 2:53 pm

invujerry wrote:I've been arguing with myself to lower my car or not....lower it or not.... I think I have decided not to lower it, because I scrape too much stuff on a regular basis. If I lower my car, I'll totally get it all fudged up.

How do you scrape on stuff.....our cars sit like 400 feet in the air stock.....Maybe you smash out hard thru dips and such

dblsg · Post by **dblsg** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 2:58 pm

hahaha, the guys at valvoline had a hard time getting my car on their ramp today... they had to use wood blocks in front of the ramp

Nick Drake · Post by **Nick Drake** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 3:18 pm

All good points guys. Thanks!

OB · Post by OB » Thu Mar 02, 2006 3:24 pm

scneonchic501 wrote:I hate when people say one thing, then come back and say the complete oposite.....anyways....if you get aftermarket fenders and body kit, its worth it to spend a bit more. you get what you pay for in that situation, and even then it might be a pain to get it to fit right, esp with fiberglass.

Extremedemensions.com sells nice quality kits.

if youre talkin about what i said you should read it again. I didnt change my mind about stockers lookin shitty when theyre too low, i just agreed that in any case lowered is better. i look at most things from a performance aspect anyways, not just a LOOK thing. I plan on droppin my car a bit too, but im more interested in handling than looks. not sayin a clean style isnt a good thing either, just not TOO low on a stock car.

Nick Drake · Post by **Nick Drake** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:26 pm

O.k. so now I'm a little more confused than when I started

I thought all that I had to do was replace the springs...which I know how to do. But if I had to replace the struts and stuff too, I'm lost. I'm not even confident what the struts do, lol.

So what is the best* route?

*Best = cheapest reliable thing I can do

Coilovers? Springs? Airbags?!?

Bear in mind this car will not be driven harshly (tracks, autocross, drag, etc.)

Oh and jk about the airbags.

Wisher2 · Post by **Wisher2** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:42 pm

Struts are what the springs sit on......

I would go coilovers and then never mess with it again......You can get a good set of coilovers and just drop it enough but later on say like a year from now you get differ rims and maybe a bodykit or whatever and you wanna go lower all you have to do is lower or raise it up without having to change a thing except getting an alinement

OB · Post by OB » Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:44 pm

a strut is a gas (usually) filled cartidge that basically keeps your springs from endlessly bouncing up and down when they go over bumps. also called a shock, struts are the dampers that stabilize the ride, while springs provide the amount of pressure put on the strut. they work hand in hand and are both major parts of the suspension. think of the hydraulic dealies that hold up lots of hatchback's/suv's trunks. thats a strut.

now what i wanna know is how you could possibly know how to install springs when you dont know what a strut is. you might wanna leave it to a professional or have a freind help you out.

thats the jist of it good luck

scneonchic · Post by **scneonchic** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:44 pm

Id say coilovers would be good too...if you get just lowering springs (eibachs, dropzones, etc) then you will enevitabaly (sp?) have to replace the struts w/ in a year or so, depending on how much the drop is, and keep having to replace them, because they wont hold up.

the coilovers come w/ their own special struts and are fuly adjustable. cost a bit more (around 1k for the really nice ones) but well worth it in the long run. I wish I had gone the coilover way to begin w/.

Wisher2 · Post by **Wisher2** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:53 pm

scneonchic501 wrote:Id say coilovers would be good too...if you get just lowering springs (eibachs, dropzones, etc) then you will enevitabaly (sp?) have to replace the struts w/ in a year or so, depending on how much the drop is, and keep having to replace them, because they wont hold up.

the coilovers come w/ their own special struts and are fuly adjustable. cost a bit more (around 1k for the really nice ones) but well worth it in the long run. I wish I had gone the coilover way to begin w/.

I just got some Ipp coilovers for 650.00 free shipping and they came in about 6 Day's
http://www.revitupmotorsports.net/shop/ ... ucts_id=55

or you could get these

http://www.revitupmotorsports.net/shop/ ... ucts_id=54

I talked down about them until I rode on a pair and they are really good.........after I bought them I red in the mag that roach uses them......I havent put mine on yet cuz I am waiting for my endlinks and enough money to get a new set of tires for my stock R/T wheels.......

When I put them on I will write a review on them

I'm on Nitto Neogen 205/45 but I am gonna go to 205/50

OB · Post by OB » Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:58 pm

coilovers consist of both the spring and the strut in one assembly, and they are height adjustable, and if you get top notch ones youll get more adjustables, like damper and what not. they are a VERY good choice if handling is a priority for you and you want to spend a LOT of money on your car. they are also usually much stiffer than most spring/strut combos. the cheap brand coilovers are garbage, and will make youre car feel like it has NO suspension and like youre riding on metal rollers. you get what you pay for. tein and ky make top of the line coilovers for neon/srt, among other companies.

based on what it looks like you want, id go with springs and struts, of midrange quality, and use them until you decide to upgrade. you can get a good set brand new for about $500, and if you are indeed able to install them yourself, u wont have to pay for any labor. good coilovers range from $800-1600 new. If youre into performance (or you just wanna have height adj for show), coilovers are cool. otherwise its a lot of money if youre not serious about modding the car.

scneonchic · Post by **scneonchic** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 11:09 pm

Wisher2 wrote:
scneonchic501 wrote:Id say coilovers would be good too...if you get just lowering springs (eibachs, dropzones, etc) then you will enevitabaly (sp?) have to replace the struts w/ in a year or so, depending on how much the drop is, and keep having to replace them, because they wont hold up.

the coilovers come w/ their own special struts and are fuly adjustable. cost a bit more (around 1k for the really nice ones) but well worth it in the long run. I wish I had gone the coilover way to begin w/.

I just got some Ipp coilovers for 650.00 free shipping and they came in about 6 Day's
http://www.revitupmotorsports.net/shop/ ... ucts_id=55

or you could get these

http://www.revitupmotorsports.net/shop/ ... ucts_id=54

I talked down about them until I rode on a pair and they are really good.........after I bought them I red in the mag that roach uses them......I havent put mine on yet cuz I am waiting for my endlinks and enough money to get a new set of tires for my stock R/T wheels.......

When I put them on I will write a review on them

I'm on Nitto Neogen 205/45 but I am gonna go to 205/50

hehe...i bought the IPPs for $999 tonight...should be going on the day of or the day after i get them, hopefully by next saturday for a CC work weekend

I cant wait

Nick Drake · Post by **Nick Drake** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 11:18 pm

orangeblastsxt wrote:now what i wanna know is how you could possibly know how to install springs when you dont know what a strut is.

I had the basic idea of what a strut was, but I was calling it a shock...and I will be having a friend help out too.

http://chetcpo.tripod.com/miscstuff/id2.html
^this doesn't hurt

Wisher2 · Post by **Wisher2** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 11:19 pm

scneonchic501 wrote:
Wisher2 wrote:
scneonchic501 wrote:Id say coilovers would be good too...if you get just lowering springs (eibachs, dropzones, etc) then you will enevitabaly (sp?) have to replace the struts w/ in a year or so, depending on how much the drop is, and keep having to replace them, because they wont hold up.

the coilovers come w/ their own special struts and are fuly adjustable. cost a bit more (around 1k for the really nice ones) but well worth it in the long run. I wish I had gone the coilover way to begin w/.

I just got some Ipp coilovers for 650.00 free shipping and they came in about 6 Day's
http://www.revitupmotorsports.net/shop/ ... ucts_id=55

or you could get these

http://www.revitupmotorsports.net/shop/ ... ucts_id=54

I talked down about them until I rode on a pair and they are really good.........after I bought them I red in the mag that roach uses them......I havent put mine on yet cuz I am waiting for my endlinks and enough money to get a new set of tires for my stock R/T wheels.......

When I put them on I will write a review on them

I'm on Nitto Neogen 205/45 but I am gonna go to 205/50
hehe...i bought the IPPs for $999 tonight...should be going on the day of or the day after i get them, hopefully by next saturday for a CC work weekend I cant wait

That is super RAD!!!!!!!

They came to Cali Hella Quick so they should get to you alot quicker

they are really good quality. Look really good and you can drop them super far if you wanted to

I didnt get the 36 ways cuz I have ADHD and knowing myself I would hiper focus on the ride quality and keep adjusting them until i just went and ripped them off cuz I couldnt get it just perfect and just went back to stock

I kinda like some things to be set and regulated giving me no room but to accept the way that it is but if there are to many variable them I stress out

I am unmedicated and 27...Been living with it all my life and I kinda know how to regulate myself....My wife says I am bad enough with moddin all the cars that I have had through out the years...hahahah

scneonchic · Post by **scneonchic** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 11:33 pm

^when did you order yours and when did they come in? just wondering because Im really hoping mine come by next friday...got my fingers crossed. they are based out of PA, so I dont see why they wouldnt.

I got the 36 way ones, because i figured id want to play around with the settings some, and adjust the ride quality. Plus I also decided on these because the KWs, MOPar, and Tiens dont drop it as low as i want. Im already sitting at 2.5" lower w/ dropzone springs, I want to go at least 3" and get rid of some of the remaining front wheel gap and ill be happy

dblsg · Post by **dblsg** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 2:29 am

i have coil over sleeves... its basically an adjustable spring. you retain the stock strut and you get to play with hight adjustability. alot of people are against the sleeves, but i'm very happy with mine. ultimately i plan on getting some airbags withing another year or so... so depending on the drop you want... it is another option.

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Will lowering my neon look goofy without... pics now 56k