CAI...help please

Post by **racer12306** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 5:17 pm

unfortunatly i dont have time to go get the information to prove this, and when i do ill send you a pm with it as to not clog this thread with that, unless many people want me to post it here.

yes the amsoil filter is a good filter, not just because im a dealer but others have used the new amsoil filter as well. unfortunatly they dont offer the new on for our second gens. but this is also not the place for me to promote amsoil products. that is for the vendors section. if you have questions about amsoil products please send me a pm or go to the vendors section and find my post there. there is a link to it in my sig.

Wisher2 · Post by **Wisher2** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 5:34 pm

http://www.modernperformance.com/dcx/pl2000_index.shtml

There buy one of these

koreysxt · Post by **koreysxt** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 2:40 pm

phenomeneon21 wrote:
racer12306 wrote:did you know that K&N's are known to pass more dirt through the filter than regular paper filters?

I'm just curious as to whether you actually have any substantial proof to this...

phenomeneon21,

Don't listen to racer12306. I'm sure he's a member of BITOG:) They are all K&N-haters there. Actually, I'm also a member of BITOG. However, I'll continue to run my oil-gauze filters 'til the day I die, or the day my engine croaks because of it:) Recently, all "K&N vs. paper" debates got locked on BITOG. I don't care either way. Everyone has their own opinion. I respect their right to change their oil every 25K miles, and they should respect mine to buy a lifetime, oiled filter...

Post by **racer12306** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 10:37 pm

Yes i am a member of BITOG (Bob is the Oil Guy). Im one of the supporters of the K&N. I have asked for proof that a slightly increased amount of silicon (dirt) has proven to dramatically decrease engine life. but no one can provide proof.

If I really had a problem with K&N's passing a little more dirt then it would have been out of my car the day after I joined BITOG. i would like one of the new amsoil filters and would probably get one if they came out with one for the second gen. it would help with my advertising i think.

But here is a link to a test. http://home.usadatanet.net/~jbplock/ISO5011/SPICER.htm it is for air filters that fit a duramax but its all the same principal.

i dont have a problem with people about air filters, its pretty damn stupid to argue over something like that. its not my car and its not my money.

BlackRoseRacing · Post by **BlackRoseRacing** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 6:26 am

By the looks of the data the Amsoil air filter overall out performs the K&N for a performance oriented vehicle. If you want a filter for a daily driver then it looks like AcDelco out performed...good find!

koreysxt · Post by **koreysxt** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 10:53 am

racer12306, I totally agree with you. "To each their own". There's so many "followers" on there. I've used K&N for the past 11 years. Of course I haven't kept a vehicle past 35K miles though -- so you can't use me as a testbed:) Now with 2 kids -- that will probably change. I just wanted something better than the stock paper, or K&N drop-in. I currently have a CAI setup, but I might change. I went with a S&B filter with an open top. I used S&B on 2 previous Explorers, and had good luck. They are much like a K&N. I'd like to get the S&B in the stock air box. It may fit if I start hacking away at the inside of the box? I do like to the sound of the CAI at WOT! I'd be more than willing to try an Amsoil filters if they would fit. I'm quite impressed with most Amsoil dealers on BITOG -- even though my Dad has sold Conklin for 20+ years.

OB · Post by OB » Tue Mar 28, 2006 11:04 am

im confused is this discussion about cai/air filters or OIL/filters? both i guess..

MyNeonSaysHi · Post by **MyNeonSaysHi** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 1:38 pm

Since this thread is pretty much phased out. I got a quick Q...

Do I have to take my AEM cai apart to recharge the filter.. (the K&N filter is near the wheel well and impossible to get to w/o

A. Taking CAI apart and pulling it up
B. Taking off that plastic shield thing with those plastic things that I have no idea how to take out.

Someone please inform me on this. Thanks.

Post by **racer12306** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 3:26 pm

orangeblastsxt wrote:im confused is this discussion about cai/air filters or OIL/filters? both i guess..

we are still talking about cai/air filters. BITOG is about so much more than just oil/oil filters. there are sections for additives, gear oils, trans fluids, tires, air filters, maintenance, etc. take a trip over there, you will be surprised, www.bobistheoilguy.com

BlackRoseRacing wrote:By the looks of the data the Amsoil air filter overall out performs the K&N for a performance oriented vehicle. If you want a filter for a daily driver then it looks like AcDelco out performed...good find!

my bad, i forgot to mention that that amsoil filter is the old two stage filter. they recently released a new EaA line of air filters, they are supposed to be good, but they are pretty new.

koreysxt wrote:racer12306, I totally agree with you. "To each their own". There's so many "followers" on there. I've used K&N for the past 11 years. Of course I haven't kept a vehicle past 35K miles though -- so you can't use me as a testbed:) Now with 2 kids -- that will probably change. I just wanted something better than the stock paper, or K&N drop-in. I currently have a CAI setup, but I might change. I went with a S&B filter with an open top. I used S&B on 2 previous Explorers, and had good luck. They are much like a K&N. I'd like to get the S&B in the stock air box. It may fit if I start hacking away at the inside of the box? I do like to the sound of the CAI at WOT! I'd be more than willing to try an Amsoil filters if they would fit. I'm quite impressed with most Amsoil dealers on BITOG -- even though my Dad has sold Conklin for 20+ years.

well ive already got 46000 on my K&N and the engine runs just like it did when it was new. Ill keep my K&N in until amsoil releases an EaA air filter.

OB · Post by OB » Tue Mar 28, 2006 3:38 pm

raul-01 wrote:Since this thread is pretty much phased out. I got a quick Q...
Do I have to take my AEM cai apart to recharge the filter.. (the K&N filter is near the wheel well and impossible to get to w/o

A. Taking CAI apart and pulling it up
B. Taking off that plastic shield thing with those plastic things that I have no idea how to take out.

Someone please inform me on this. Thanks.

i doubt youll be able to pull a FILTER thru the 3" hole in th fenderwell, but give it a try lol

the inner plastic wheel well things pop right off if u yank em, or you can death grip the clips with needlenoses and yank em out. and you of course need a (T25 i think) bit to unscrew it from the actual fender. its cake i recharged mine a few months ago. take the wheel off if you have trouble gettin in there, i think its possible to just turn it hard right tho too.

MyNeonSaysHi · Post by **MyNeonSaysHi** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 4:02 pm

orangeblastsxt wrote:
raul-01 wrote:Since this thread is pretty much phased out. I got a quick Q...
Do I have to take my AEM cai apart to recharge the filter.. (the K&N filter is near the wheel well and impossible to get to w/o

A. Taking CAI apart and pulling it up
B. Taking off that plastic shield thing with those plastic things that I have no idea how to take out.

Someone please inform me on this. Thanks.
i doubt youll be able to pull a FILTER thru the 3" hole in th fenderwell, but give it a try lol

the inner plastic wheel well things pop right off if u yank em, or you can death grip the clips with needlenoses and yank em out. and you of course need a (T25 i think) bit to unscrew it from the actual fender. its cake i recharged mine a few months ago. take the wheel off if you have trouble gettin in there, i think its possible to just turn it hard right tho too.

Thanks!

phenomeneon21 · Post by **phenomeneon21** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 5:35 pm

whoa, haha, forgot to check this thread for updates...racer12306, i hope I didn't come off sounding like a dickhead asking for proof, its just i instantly saw that your an "amsoil dealer", so I figured the first words outta your mouth would've been, "buy an amsoil filter! they're 100% better than the K&N!" I was grumpy the day I made that post, no hard feelings? haha, i haven't had a chance to check out the link you posted, but I'll be sure to check out how the K&N compares to the amsoil just out of curiousity...

Post by **racer12306** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 6:01 pm

Not a problem. a lot of people have a hard time believing it because of the great job at advertising K&N has done.

Just remember that the AMSOIL filter in that test is the old two stage oiled foam filter, not the new EaA dry reusable air filter.

Wisher2 · Post by **Wisher2** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 6:29 pm

orangeblastsxt wrote:
raul-01 wrote:Since this thread is pretty much phased out. I got a quick Q...
Do I have to take my AEM cai apart to recharge the filter.. (the K&N filter is near the wheel well and impossible to get to w/o

A. Taking CAI apart and pulling it up
B. Taking off that plastic shield thing with those plastic things that I have no idea how to take out.

Someone please inform me on this. Thanks.
i doubt youll be able to pull a FILTER thru the 3" hole in th fenderwell, but give it a try lol

the inner plastic wheel well things pop right off if u yank em, or you can death grip the clips with needlenoses and yank em out. and you of course need a (T25 i think) bit to unscrew it from the actual fender. its cake i recharged mine a few months ago. take the wheel off if you have trouble gettin in there, i think its possible to just turn it hard right tho too.

I just stick my hand up the hole and unscrew the filter and pull it out......No biggy

BlackRoseRacing · Post by **BlackRoseRacing** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 6:46 pm

you could always just remove the 2 screws that hold the headlight in and go from there....

dblsg · Post by **dblsg** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 8:01 pm

Wisher2 wrote:
orangeblastsxt wrote:
raul-01 wrote:Since this thread is pretty much phased out. I got a quick Q...
Do I have to take my AEM cai apart to recharge the filter.. (the K&N filter is near the wheel well and impossible to get to w/o

A. Taking CAI apart and pulling it up
B. Taking off that plastic shield thing with those plastic things that I have no idea how to take out.

Someone please inform me on this. Thanks.
i doubt youll be able to pull a FILTER thru the 3" hole in th fenderwell, but give it a try lol

the inner plastic wheel well things pop right off if u yank em, or you can death grip the clips with needlenoses and yank em out. and you of course need a (T25 i think) bit to unscrew it from the actual fender. its cake i recharged mine a few months ago. take the wheel off if you have trouble gettin in there, i think its possible to just turn it hard right tho too.
I just stick my hand up the hole and unscrew the filter and pull it out......No biggy

or take the front bumper off......

OB · Post by OB » Tue Mar 28, 2006 10:21 pm

the fender liber comes off in 3 seconds, i think its the best way to do it. lol take the bumper off!

kc2005ptgt · Post by **kc2005ptgt** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 2:25 pm

orangeblastsxt wrote:the fender liber comes off in 3 seconds, i think its the best way to do it. lol take the bumper off!

What's a fender liber?

Floyd · Post by **Floyd** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 2:42 pm

kc2002acr wrote:What's a fender liber?

I was thinking the same thing. must be on the Euro Neon

koreysxt · Post by **koreysxt** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 2:43 pm

kc2002acr wrote:
orangeblastsxt wrote:the fender liber comes off in 3 seconds, i think its the best way to do it. lol take the bumper off!
What's a fender liber?

I think he meant LINER? Remove the few screws for the fender liner on the driver's side. I didn't have to remove my wheel to get the huge silencer box out, but it involved a lot of twisting and pulling:)

OB · Post by OB » Wed Mar 29, 2006 5:40 pm

koreysxt wrote:
kc2002acr wrote:
orangeblastsxt wrote:the fender liber comes off in 3 seconds, i think its the best way to do it. lol take the bumper off!
What's a fender liber?
I think he meant LINER? Remove the few screws for the fender liner on the driver's side. I didn't have to remove my wheel to get the huge silencer box out, but it involved a lot of twisting and pulling:)

there ya go, liner! and thats what ive been doing wrong all along! shoot!

BlackRoseRacing · Post by **BlackRoseRacing** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 7:06 pm

total of 3 srews, 2 headlight 1 fascia, pry the headlight out enough at an angle and remove the lights out of the lense. Then just pull the headlight out the rest of the way and you have complete access to the inner fender well. It takes a whole 2minutes tops to remove the headlight, takes me about 1min or less......