Shift....NOW

neonslg09 · Post by **neonslg09** » Thu Jul 22, 2010 9:56 pm

Was wondering what's the ideal RPM range to shift at. I swapped to a 5spd awhile back, and hot wired the neutral safety switch to I could run the manual ECU. I recently took it to about 6800 and boy it seemed sooo much quicker [in my n/a neon lolz]

Is this normal? As in the higher rev's? I thought there was a rev limit, but maybe I was mistaken.

So with that;

Take off?
Thru the gears?

Help a newb out, thanks.

JeffB#2 · Post by **JeffB#2** » Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:04 pm

There is always a rev limit.
Stock cam? HP takes a nose dive right around 6000. Shift right after that.

LowNSlow · Post by **LowNSlow** » Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:05 pm

Over 9000!

Post by **occasional demons** » Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:59 pm

MTX rpm cut is supposed to be 6750 for an unmodified pcm. ATX is 6000, IIRC. The R/T is 6780 or some undetectable difference using the factory tach. My R/T pcm appears to be at the 6750 mark, for what it's worth.

OB · Post by OB » Fri Jul 23, 2010 2:21 pm

Mine tops out at 6750, I can vouch for it on a number of occasions!

Like Jeff said, shift around 6K where power falls off if you're looking to go fast. For every day shifting, I like 3K, sometimes as high as 4K if I need a little umph. The power band is somewhat small on these cars; starts around 3500 and pulls until 6000 ish. For economy driving, shift around 2500. Anything lower and you'll likely bog with any attempt at acceleration.

FAC3L3SS · Post by **FAC3L3SS** » Fri Jul 23, 2010 2:23 pm

I hit 7600 the other day :shrugs:

Fuzzyneon · Post by **Fuzzyneon** » Fri Jul 23, 2010 4:52 pm

FAC3L3SS wrote:I hit 7600 the other day :shrugs:

Me to

Yeah my 2gn the tach would get wierd and sometimes like show 6800 but its 6750 i believe ive tapped off it as well as just hit it plenty of times i shifted around 6400 -6600 try there since you have some decent bolt ons

heydockyle · Post by **heydockyle** » Fri Jul 23, 2010 6:00 pm

As can I but I choose not to.

neonslg09 · Post by **neonslg09** » Fri Jul 23, 2010 6:25 pm

JeffB#2 wrote:There is always a rev limit.
Stock cam? HP takes a nose dive right around 6000. Shift right after that.

It seems to drop at 6000, but gains back at 6400. Stock internals, full bolt on's minus a UDP.

When I shift at 6000 into second it seems to bog? [lose power] then we I hit 5k it picks back up.

eastwoodsn352 · Post by **eastwoodsn352** » Fri Jul 23, 2010 6:37 pm

neonslg09 wrote:
JeffB#2 wrote:There is always a rev limit.
Stock cam? HP takes a nose dive right around 6000. Shift right after that.

It seems to drop at 6000, but gains back at 6400. Stock internals, full bolt on's minus a UDP.

When I shift at 6000 into second it seems to bog? [lose power] then we I hit 5k it picks back up.

dont drop the clutch and it wont bog.

neonslg09 · Post by **neonslg09** » Fri Jul 23, 2010 7:32 pm

Are you talking about WOT shifting?

FAC3L3SS · Post by **FAC3L3SS** » Fri Jul 23, 2010 7:34 pm

I think he's saying don't miss-shift.

I hit 7600 the other day WITHOUT EVEN REACHING REDLINE...is what I was implying...

INVUJerry · Post by **INVUJerry** » Fri Jul 23, 2010 9:21 pm

You can shift out of 1st as high as you can, but 2nd or 3rd shift around 6300. The ECU will rev to 6750, but sometimes the momentum will carry it past that.

farmboy · Post by **farmboy** » Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:25 pm

good to know...i'll try this out this friday and let you know how it worked out. I've been wondering this same thing.

Fuzzyneon · Post by **Fuzzyneon** » Wed Sep 01, 2010 6:54 pm

invujerry wrote:You can shift out of 1st as high as you can, but 2nd or 3rd shift around 6300. The ECU will rev to 6750, but sometimes the momentum will carry it past that.

This^

Post by **occasional demons** » Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:25 pm

Yep, I can hold it till it shuts down, shift into 2nd, let the clutch back out, and chirp the tires. Inertia is a beautiful thing.

INVUJerry · Post by **INVUJerry** » Sun Sep 26, 2010 12:48 pm

occasional demons wrote:Yep, I can hold it till it shuts down, shift into 2nd, let the clutch back out, and chirp the tires. Inertia is a beautiful thing.

I always had an issue with my car though. WOT shifting into 2nd, I'm shifting faster than the car is coming off the rev limiter, so it bogs for a split second, and then comes back onto power.

LowNSlow · Post by **LowNSlow** » Sun Sep 26, 2010 1:11 pm

In my SRT-4 I shift at around 5500 rpms.. any higher and it doesn't really pull as hard.

FAC3L3SS · Post by **FAC3L3SS** » Sun Sep 26, 2010 1:15 pm

I shift at like 2800.

heydockyle · Post by **heydockyle** » Sun Sep 26, 2010 2:20 pm

Red Car: 6-65k
SXT: 6k
SRT: Redline (6k)

FAC3L3SS · Post by **FAC3L3SS** » Sun Sep 26, 2010 2:32 pm

heydockyle wrote:Red Car: 6-65k
SXT: 6k
SRT: Redline (6k)

Jesus. Such a broad range. I thought S2Ks revved high

heydockyle · Post by **heydockyle** » Sun Sep 26, 2010 2:50 pm

When the red car wants to rev that bitch revs

NeonGurl · Post by **NeonGurl** » Wed Dec 15, 2010 12:37 pm

Yeah, I would say shift right around 6k. It's supposed to higher, but typically you lose some power around 6k. You might try 6,400 or 6,700 when you're not RACING, but I would play it a little safe. Especially if you haven't been dragging much.

ZeroChad · Post by **ZeroChad** » Wed Dec 15, 2010 12:56 pm

Especially with the 3.55 shift as high as you can. Even though power starts to drop off, you'll still be making more power than at the lower rpm after you shift.

lilnicko11 · Post by **lilnicko11** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 11:10 am

bring it past redline then shift

i kid i kid