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STARTER Motor?
Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 10:51 pm
by GTS
My starter is about to go out on the Neon and I was wondering if anyone knows if a starter from a 1st gen SOHC would fit in mine. There are a bunch of them on ebay for cheap. THe one for my 2001 Neon is over 200$ and I dont feel like spending so much.
I noticed an SRT starter out there too but I doubt that it would fit at all.
From what i understand these are the part numbers.
2.0.L 4793493
2.0L HO 5033133AA
1.6L 5293135AA
Are these ^ #s right?
Can someone give me prices.
Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 3:17 am
by Mopar00Neon
No, a 1st gen starter will not work.
Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 2:39 pm
by neon_ert3
anyone know how to get to the bottom bolt on the starter?
i got my starter off ebay for $50. and it has a 30 day warranty on it
Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 6:16 am
by BlackRoseRacing
REMOVAL - 2.0L AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION
Disconnect the negative battery cable.
Remove the air cleaner box, refer to the air cleaner box removal/installation in this section.
Remove the 2 upper bracket bolts for the intake support (INTAKE SUPPORT BRACKET).
Raise vehicle and support.
Remove the oil pan support bracket (OIL PAN BRACKET).
Remove the intake support bracket (INTAKE SUPPORT BRACKET LOWER BOLTS).
Disconnect the battery cable and solenoid connection from the starter.
Remove the starter bolts.
Remove starter.
One thing that was a pain on my car is how to get the starter out! I basically did the above, but I removed the positive wiring and the black bracket from the starter. Then I fought but fed the starter out the top once the wiring and bold were removed.
On a non-mag motor, I dont know how much room you have down below but with a mag motor the plenum is to big to feed the starter out the bottom....
Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 11:19 am
by blue demon02
Mopar00Neon wrote:No, a 1st gen starter will not work.
That is not correct. They infact will work. The blocks are the same also you can swap any year from 96-02.
Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 8:07 pm
by BlackRoseRacing
^^^
I cant tell you that for sure since the part number changed

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 2:00 am
by Mopar00Neon
blue demon02 wrote:Mopar00Neon wrote:No, a 1st gen starter will not work.
That is not correct. They infact will work. The blocks are the same also you can swap any year from 96-02.
Uh, no. That IS correct.
The starter motor is physically the same, but the solinoid is mounted differently. Why do you think 1st gen people want to buy 2nd gen starters when they swap magnum intake manifolds on and such?
95-96 uses one starter*
97-99 uses one starter*
00-05 use another
SRT, Im not sure on.
*Solinoid connectors were different for these years.
Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 11:18 am
by blue demon02
BlackRoseRacing wrote:^^^
I cant tell you that for sure since the part number changed

Can you post the part numbers?
Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 8:10 pm
by neon_ert3
ok, i just dropped in 2 starters and neither of them did anything. could there be something else wrong? my battery is puttin out 12+ volts, all my grounds are good. idk what else to do!
Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 8:49 pm
by Mopar00Neon
neon_ert3 wrote:ok, i just dropped in 2 starters and neither of them did anything. could there be something else wrong? my battery is puttin out 12+ volts, all my grounds are good. idk what else to do!
Have you had your battery load tested? Sometimes a battery will read 12+ volts when its just sitting, but itll drop to next to nothing the second a load is put on it. Common with bad/dead cells.
Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 9:10 pm
by BlackRoseRacing
Have you manually tried jumping the starter?
Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 9:38 pm
by speedyrb29
im having a similar problem
Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 10:25 pm
by neon_ert3
yeah, i manually jumped it. is something wrong with my ignition? ok it turn over then. i guess this gives me an excuse to put a push start in. NOW i have no kinda spark at all. man this really sux.
Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 10:34 pm
by speedyrb29
for me when i turn the key i get this weird whine noise and my fuse box makes a lil click noise once. then earlyer i got a repeated tick tick tick tick which was very fast, it would keep doing this as long as i had the jey turned to the on position as to start it.
Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 11:28 pm
by dblsg
speedyrb29 wrote:for me when i turn the key i get this weird whine noise ....
as in something spinning.... then its the starter. its not kicking out.
Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 11:44 pm
by speedyrb29
no the whine sounds like its comming from near the back of the engine like near the steering colum.
Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 2:00 pm
by neon_ert3
neon_ert3 wrote:yeah, i manually jumped it. is something wrong with my ignition? ok it turn over then. i guess this gives me an excuse to put a push start in. NOW i have no kinda spark at all. man this really sux.
i put a push botton in from the brown wire to power since i cant get it to turn over anyonther way. will the push button be fine there or should i buy a new ignition switch? the starter is fine. now im not gettin a spark or nothin. could it be the coil pack? IDK someone plz help me!
Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 6:31 pm
by speedyrb29
so you installed a push botton start? how dose that work dose it just by pass everything? what about the skim moduale do u just have to have ur key in the ignition in the on position? i might do the same install a push botton start and a battery kill switch becuase i can figure this out either.
Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 9:40 pm
by GTS
So now does the 1st gen starter work on the second gens or does it not what is the deal?
Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:37 pm
by neon_ert3
speedyrb29 wrote:so you installed a push botton start? how dose that work dose it just by pass everything? what about the skim moduale do u just have to have ur key in the ignition in the on position? i might do the same install a push botton start and a battery kill switch becuase i can figure this out either.
i just hooked the brown wire to one side of a push switch and the other to the battery.
GTS wrote:So now does the 1st gen starter work on the second gens or does it not what is the deal?
sorry idk. i just got a 2gn starter off ebay for 50bux.
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 8:11 pm
by GTS
Another question. The Magnums being different I know their starters are a little different too so if I get a magnum starter is that going to fit fine on the regular base motor. I dont have time to go out there and look for pictures and the differences between the two.