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Mag head
Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 8:01 pm
by Hudson_Neon
ok, so my head project is goin a little down hill.
i was lookin at maybe just ordering a mag head from mancini. would i have to worry about problems bolting up to my intake manifold or header?
i know the answer is probably out there somewhere, but i'm really not in the mood to go searching. you know, considering that my head that i've spent so damn much time on might be fucked
Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 8:14 pm
by jckevns
not completely sure but they should work
you should get the mag intake and exhuast mani to go with it
what happened with the other head it looked like it was going well
Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 8:27 pm
by Hudson_Neon
i was fuckin stupid and wanted to put new valve guides in because the old ones were just that... old. and i bought new ones. over $60 for all new ones! and because i had to end up drillin one of the old ones out it hole is too big now. i also then took a closer look at the other holes and found that the punch fucked up the insides.
be yeah... no matter what happens i'm still ordering all the internals that i was gonna put in the ported head. i don't care if it goes in the stock head, mag head, the ported one(if i get it to work). i just really don't wanna be shit out the money that i've spent already on it. $60 for new guides, about $25 on grinding stones and sanding drums. that's a lot of money for a college student to just throw away. i'm gonna ask an OLD mechanic where i work what he thinks. and if he says the head is shot then i hope NAPA will take back these guides (one shattered trying to put it in before i realized that the one hole is too big)
fuck this pisses me off

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 8:43 pm
by Arro
ouch! yeah I've pulled out my hair for fucking my own stuff up before. I hear ya man.
Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 10:21 pm
by Hudson_Neon
well... i had some time to calm down now

i think that i'm gonna stick with modding my stock head. i'm gonna try to pick up another 1gn head from a guy near me for $20 i'll really take my time on this next one. and there's no way in hell i'm gonna remove the valve guides. the plus side to rippin apart that old head is that i now have the 1gn keepers and locks so i can still run the indy valves
Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 1:07 am
by Arro
"If at first you don't succeed, try, try again."
- Mickey Mouse
Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 5:45 am
by BlackRoseRacing
Valve guide removal......
I actually did this on my old 2.2 8valve heads.....
Stick bare head into the oven and bake head to 375 dergree's. Be warned that any residual oil's are going to come off the head into the oven. Once baked for um, 15minutes or so, I removed the head and carefully slid the valve guides right out of the head.
The head gets hot enough that I was able to literally slide the guides right out of the head...
Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 10:39 am
by Hudson_Neon
i'll keep that in mind for the next one
Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 11:55 am
by TN.Frank
Sometimes the best way to learn is to mess up, that way you'll NEVER forget what you learned. Also, some things are better left to the pros with the proper tools/expirence. I'd rather pay a few bucks and have a guy do the job right then try and save a few bucks, screw up and end up paying more because I had to buy new parts.
I think when the time comes I'm just getting a stock 2gn head, send it out for a P&P and cam install and then just take a weekend to bolt it up. It may cost a bit more to do it that way but at least I won't mess anything up and I know it'll be done right. JMHO, YMMV.
Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 11:58 am
by Hudson_Neon
well, the head was free. and the next one will only be $20
Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 12:03 pm
by TN.Frank
If I only had $20 bucks into the head I'd for sure send it out and spend the cash to have it done professionally. Even if they charged you $300 for a P&P(not sure what they get, just throwin' out a number) it'd still be cheaper then a bare Mag head.
Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 1:49 pm
by Arro
I agree with your logic, but maybe EJ wanted to learn himself how to do it. DIY can be a lot of fun. It can also mean more expense and setbacks from mistakes. But after awhile, you end up learning a LOT more and saving ALOT more $$$, once you begin to know your way around things.