Used Oil Analysis

Post by **racer12306** » Thu May 15, 2008 5:42 pm

I was curious so I did a UOA for my neon at the last oil change. I got the report the other day.

teamliviD · Post by **teamliviD** » Fri May 16, 2008 8:23 am

Wow thats pretty cool. You gonna try 7000 miles next time??

Paul56 · Post by **Paul56** » Fri May 16, 2008 12:07 pm

I'm surprised more folks have not responded to this thread.

I'm considering getting a UOA done. On the other hand I would be nervous to hear what the results are in case there is something going on that means expensive repairs.

Good place to read up on oil here: http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php

jake_tim · Post by **jake_tim** » Fri May 16, 2008 12:52 pm

thats cool. How much does it cost to get your oil analyzed?

-Jacob

Donkeypuncher · Post by **Donkeypuncher** » Fri May 16, 2008 1:15 pm

Looks like it's a good source of calcium. I know a lot of people that do this, and most get a little peace of mind. Others find out that the stock ecu is running too rich, and some find out that the oil they use is crap. It's probably one of the best ways to find out what condition the engine is in on a used car. Should tell you the amount of abuse the previous owner put it through.

SGT BRAD · Post by **SGT BRAD** » Fri May 16, 2008 3:30 pm

Paul56 wrote:I'm surprised more folks have not responded to this thread. I'm considering getting a UOA done. On the other hand I would be nervous to hear what the results are in case there is something going on that means expensive repairs.

Good place to read up on oil here: http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php

that's why i've always been scared to try this!!!

yellowpatrol · Post by **yellowpatrol** » Fri May 16, 2008 3:53 pm

Why would you be scared to see if something is wrong? The sooner you know the sooner you can fix it and prevent even worse complications!

fixitmattman · Post by **fixitmattman** » Fri May 16, 2008 7:15 pm

I do an oil analysis with my fingers everytime I drop the oil out of something. Obviously not going to be down to the details like sending it out, but you can tell a lot just by checking what comes out of the plug. Don't even need to drop the oil half the time, what's on the dipstick will tell you a lot as well.

Moparty08 · Post by **Moparty08** » Sat May 17, 2008 7:43 am

Where can i go to get that done?

Paul56 · Post by **Paul56** » Sat May 17, 2008 7:52 am

moparty08 wrote:Where can i go to get that done?

On the Internet... Google is your best friend.

http://www.blackstone-labs.com/

Moparty08 · Post by **Moparty08** » Sat May 17, 2008 8:02 am

so you just get the kit then send it back out to them?

Post by **racer12306** » Mon May 19, 2008 4:30 pm

Sorry I didn't respond sooner. I was in the middle of reading through 6 pages of new threads when the site when down yesterday.

moparty - yes, it is that simple. Follow their directions for sampling and send them $23 or $30 (for TBN test) and they get back to you with your report.

I was going to go 7500 miles, but my current situation puts my neon as a nights and weekend car so it would take damn near a year to rack up 7000 miles. So the answer to that is no. I will be going to a 6 month oil change schedule rather than a mileage based schedule. My prius gets all the mileage on it, just had the 5000 mile service done on it and I've had it for 2.5 months and the daily mileage will only go up on it.

Moparty08 · Post by **Moparty08** » Tue May 20, 2008 10:11 am

sweet. Yeah i sent out for it yesterday

SGT BRAD · Post by **SGT BRAD** » Tue May 20, 2008 11:10 am

yellowpatrol wrote:Why would you be scared to see if something is wrong? The sooner you know the sooner you can fix it and prevent even worse complications!

ignorance is bliss my friend

darthroush · Post by **darthroush** » Tue Jan 12, 2010 1:29 am

BUMP! This is the only PP UOA on a Neon I have found...

Hey Frank, out of curiosity, how do you typically drive the car? Is it general city/highway driving? Spirited? "Normal?" City or Highway?

Reason I ask is I have been running PP for some time and I have another oil change coming up in about 100 miles. I have gone 6,000 miles this past couple of times, but am thinking of giving something like 7,500 a shot. I know the best way would be to get a UOA done, but for the cost of one of those, I can just simply change the oil and start fresh again. I'm just trying to get an idea if I want to bump the distance up or not.

Thanks.

heydockyle · Post by **heydockyle** » Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:49 am

Hmm. May have to do this to see how bad the engine in the 1gn is.

Post by **racer12306** » Tue Jan 12, 2010 11:28 am

id say spirited

darthroush · Post by **darthroush** » Tue Jan 12, 2010 2:10 pm

Alright, thanks man! Maybe I will give it a little bit longer run then since in about two weeks, I'll be racking up major highway miles when school starts again.

iskyfly · Post by **iskyfly** » Sun Jun 13, 2010 11:18 am

What would be the best sample of the used oil- what comes out of the drain plug, or what comes out of the oil filter? I would think that the oil out of the filter would be better as most of the particulate matter would be held there.... After all, you do a UOA to check for engine wear, what better place to sample the oil from than the filter?

Haganracing · Post by **Haganracing** » Sun Jun 13, 2010 11:22 am

Thats pretty neat.. Never seen this before.

ewetho · Post by **ewetho** » Sun Jun 13, 2010 12:33 pm

Neons having no Variable Valve timing and now chains on and on with basically just a basic motor are very easy on oil. If 7K is one year one your ride and you have that much TBN left you should be fine going to 1 year/7.5K. Really not an issue with such a fine oil as PP.

darthroush · Post by **darthroush** » Sun Jun 13, 2010 2:24 pm

iskyfly wrote:What would be the best sample of the used oil- what comes out of the drain plug, or what comes out of the oil filter? I would think that the oil out of the filter would be better as most of the particulate matter would be held there.... After all, you do a UOA to check for engine wear, what better place to sample the oil from than the filter?

The drain plug after a proper drive. I don't know the specifics of getting the oil from the filter, but that to me would seem like it would "dope" the sample. You get it from the pan since that is the oil that is going through your engine. Obviously, the filter catches most of it, but not 100%.

I'm over 8,500 miles on this run of PP with 1 qt. of make up oil. Plan was to change it at 8,000 miles and sample, but haven't had time in the past week once I hit 8,000.

Post by **racer12306** » Sun Jun 13, 2010 6:03 pm

You are supposed to sample after a few seconds of draining from the drain plug. You wouldn't want to sample from the filter as it would throw off the numbers. I don't set the instructions, I just go by what Blackstone Labs says.

MoparFreek · Post by **MoparFreek** » Sun Jun 13, 2010 7:24 pm

This is my latest UOA on my SRT4,haven't done one on my 02 yet. I am going to follow their suggestion and take it out to 8k next time.

iskyfly · Post by **iskyfly** » Sun Jun 13, 2010 10:20 pm

http://www.blackstone-labs.com/faq.php

What about the oil left in the filter? Can I use that instead?
Sure, just make a note on the slip that the oil came from the filter. If something really bizarre shows up, we'll take that into account. It shouldn't change much in the analysis, though.

Post by **racer12306** » Sun Jun 13, 2010 10:22 pm

I wouldn't push extended changes on an SRT.

OB · Post by OB » Mon Jun 14, 2010 2:47 am

Maybe I'll take a sample in to work one of these days and give it a shot. I've been doing Mobil Full syn 5w30 at 5K intervals for about 40K miles now, I'm curious what the analysis will show.

darthroush · Post by **darthroush** » Mon Jun 14, 2010 3:18 am

OB wrote:Maybe I'll take a sample in to work one of these days and give it a shot. I've been doing Mobil Full syn 5w30 at 5K intervals for about 40K miles now, I'm curious what the analysis will show.

I was going to ask how much it would be (if you could), after hearing you mention UOA's for the trucks at the GTG.

I mean, if it is the same price or cheaper than Blackstone, and without the shipping cost...

iskyfly · Post by **iskyfly** » Mon Jun 14, 2010 9:56 am

darthroush wrote: I mean, if it is the same price or cheaper than Blackstone, and without the shipping cost...

what about the database of universal and location averages?

Post by **racer12306** » Mon Jun 14, 2010 11:06 am

If you know where to research that isn't very important. BITOG is a great resource for that.