yet another crane 14 question

c987long · Post by **c987long** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 8:52 am

i have been reading some threads http://forum.2gn.org/viewtopic.php?t=31763, i am getting a crame 14 W/ adj. cam gear, when i do the install the cam i have to bleed the system when i put it in right.

anything else i should be doing?? lmk

chris

Wenuden · Post by **Wenuden** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:29 am

? um... What system? If you take the head off you have to drain the oil and coolant. If you leave the head on, you may have to replace some spilt oil.

c987long · Post by **c987long** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 11:57 am

my bad i should have been clearer. when my bro changes cams in his vw, he was to turn the motor every 15 or something like that. I didnt know if we had to do the same thing?

Post by **occasional demons** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 12:29 pm

That would be adjusting the valve lash. No need for that on Neon engines.

Swordfish2Cowboy · Post by **Swordfish2Cowboy** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 1:59 pm

Turn the motor?

c987long · Post by **c987long** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:20 pm

bleeding the lifters is what i am referring to

Post by **occasional demons** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:03 pm

The lifters will bleed the oil out from spring pressure alone. Just bolt the rocker shafts on in their proper positons, and evenly work them down and you'll be fine. (that is if the cam is in the correct position) Well the lifters won't care much, but the valves may not like it.

c987long · Post by **c987long** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 6:37 pm

i was also thinking about replacing the head gasket while i am putting the cam in. Any thoughts on one that i sould pick up.

and

am i going to have to run a higher grade of gas for the cam

asanti · Post by **asanti** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:41 pm

c987long wrote:i was also thinking about replacing the head gasket while i am putting the cam in. Any thoughts on one that i sould pick up.

and

am i going to have to run a higher grade of gas for the cam

As far as a head gasket, a Mopar OEM one will do you fine unless you're looking to bump up the compression ratio on the cheap, then remove the middle layer of the head gasket before you install a new one (I'm assuming you know never to reuse an old head gasket

). You can also get a cometic (sp?) head gasket that's thinner and does the same thing as far as bumping up the compression ratio. If you do the above, then yes better gas is def. recommended. Although if you're getting a 14, I suggest you get the accompanying mods like I/H/E, get magnum springs at the very least, and ultimately a better intake mani. More stuff can be done to get the MOST out of the cam (i.e. P&P the head!) but this is a good starting point. Hope that helps ya.

Later
Allex

Later
Allex

c987long · Post by **c987long** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 10:24 pm

i have a 01 r/t so from what i have learned, a crane 14 is the largest cam i can put in there with out having to change anything else out

asanti · Post by **asanti** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 11:40 am

c987long wrote:i have a 01 r/t so from what i have learned, a crane 14 is the largest cam i can put in there with out having to change anything else out

Exactly, anything larger like the Crane 16, 18 or "bigger" and you'll need lash caps due to the cam's ramp profile; not to mention a GOOD set of aftermarket valvesprings to hold up as well. I would also recommend if you're going with the 14 that you get some type of aftermarket fuel controller like an SAFC. The 14 will make the PCM throw a rich code so you'll need something to pull fuel at idle. I forgot to mention that earlier

.

Later
Allex

c987long · Post by **c987long** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 2:10 pm

where could i get a hold of one, does modern performance have anything like this

yellowpatrol · Post by **yellowpatrol** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 4:26 pm

c987long wrote:where could i get a hold of one, does modern performance have anything like this

Get ahold of what? Aftermarket fuel control? Search for megasquirt.

asanti · Post by **asanti** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 5:02 pm

c987long wrote:where could i get a hold of one, does modern performance have anything like this

Actually yes you can get the cam and the SAFC Neo at Modern. I suggest you order over the phone and don't use the online pay though. Several of us have had our cards scammed for some crazy reason after doing the online pay there.

Later
Allex

yellowpatrol · Post by **yellowpatrol** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 6:28 pm

asanti wrote:I suggest you order over the phone and don't use the online pay though. Several of us have had our cards scammed for some crazy reason after doing the online pay there.

They supposedly fixed their online cart system but I wouldn't trust it. There is a huge topic about people who have had their card numbers stolen after using MPx online. Phone is the way to go!

c987long · Post by **c987long** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 11:28 pm

i already have the cam and adj. cam wheel. I picked it up for 150. I just want to make sure that i am doing everything right. This is the first engine mod that i have ever done.

chris