Mag intake question what i need

Fuzzyneon · Post by **Fuzzyneon** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 12:08 am

i found this i am planning on buying wondering what i need to do to make it work (no butterfly valves as i didn't plan on using them anyways) but it as adapted for a 1st gen what do i need to do to make it fit my 2gn gen =D
also aside from the actual intake what do i need to make this work ?

NickKo · Post by **NickKo** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 2:49 pm

It should be a total bolt in, pretty much .... Unless I am missing something, I am sure someone will chime in......

So you are going to run it without the butterfly valves ?

- Nick

Fuzzyneon · Post by **Fuzzyneon** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 2:58 pm

yes without the butterflys

excon · Post by **excon** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 3:00 pm

uhhhh the throttle body.... what are you going to do about that?

Since that is a first gen. manifold the throttle body is facing upwards. On second gen manifolds the throttle body sicks out to the driver's side... i guess you could hook up the bellows tube to that first gen manifold and bend it at a 90 degree angle to your TB....iono...

actually... it doesn't seem like you'll have to bend the bellow's tube that much from the picture...

Fuzzyneon · Post by **Fuzzyneon** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 3:15 pm

i was going to dremel or remove the adapter plate and use somesort of bellow tube to make it work

INVUJerry · Post by **INVUJerry** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 3:24 pm

Don't worry guys, Don's going to be doing this at my house. I'm going to take off the plate with a mix of sawzall and motivation. I think all we'll need is a manifold gasket and then swap whatever pieces over to from the stock manifold.

Fuzzyneon · Post by **Fuzzyneon** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 6:39 pm

just seeing if i could possible need anything else i always feel like im forgetting something lol

Post by **occasional demons** » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:32 am

I think invujerry pretty much has it covered. Looks like all that was done was the adapter plate welded on. May need to weld on some more tube for a good fit tho, or go with a 60 mm opening on it to take full advantage, if you upgrade the TB down the road.

But that's something for the two of you to work out... or could be done at a later time also.

Fuzzyneon · Post by **Fuzzyneon** » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:43 am

occasional demons wrote:I think invujerry pretty much has it covered. Looks like all that was done was the adapter plate welded on. May need to weld on some more tube for a good fit tho, or go with a 60 mm opening on it to take full advantage, if you upgrade the TB down the road.
But that's something for the two of you to work out... or could be done at a later time also.

I may clamp the crap out of it with plastic tubing and ngc +60mmTB =fail

krc21 · Post by **krc21** » Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:19 am

just save you time and money

excon · Post by **excon** » Mon Sep 01, 2008 10:35 am

that is definately a DOHC intake manifold. I heard (on another post) that you'd have to open up your intake ports on the block for it to work...

let me know how if it works out for you

INVUJerry · Post by **INVUJerry** » Tue Sep 02, 2008 2:42 pm

That is in no way a DOHC intake manifold. I had it bolted up to my 1gn SOHC head, and it's from a 01-04 R/T mag head.

That's another mag intake that's forsale on 1gn.org

Post by **occasional demons** » Tue Sep 02, 2008 3:28 pm

excon wrote:that is definately a DOHC intake manifold. I heard (on another post) that you'd have to open up your intake ports on the block for it to work...

let me know how if it works out for you

While it may look similiar, but if you seen a side view....
Plus the throttle opening is not angled on 1gn's it is straight up. IIRC it doesn't matter SOHC or D.

excon · Post by **excon** » Tue Sep 02, 2008 11:23 pm

my mistake.

I could have sworn it looked like a first gen. DOHC manifold... but then i edited my first post because it looked like the throttle body position wasn't sticking straight up... made me rethink my statement.

INVUJerry · Post by **INVUJerry** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:58 pm

The way the runners are shaped I can understand. From a dead on shot it looks a little similar.

Jerome Adams · Post by **Jerome Adams** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 5:35 pm

I haven't ininstalled mine yet, but during research I think I remember soemthing about the intake bolts being too long or too short, so you can't reuse the stock ones. Apparently there is a mounting bracket that is a PITA as well. Since you have no butterflies you don't have to worry about that, but I would still check out the 2 threads in the "how to" section for any other tips to make the install go smooth.

What are you using for a bellows tube? I have an AEM CAI and I want to see if I can use a 45 degree coupler to attach mine, but I have my stock rubber bellows as a back up if need be.

I still need to get an RPM switch cause I have butterflies and a working actuator

. I was going to wait to put it on with my mag head, but it looks like I wont get to the head/cam swap until after the new year, so I will probably go ahead with the intake in the not too distant future (that and hopefully a PC680 battery w/ mounting tray)