Air intake horsepower

Neon4Life · Post by **Neon4Life** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 8:35 am

well my questiion is would there be any benifit to using 2 filters at the end of the cold air intake as mine is AEM brand.

and i was just wanting to get you guys thoughts on this next thing i thought of but anyone think that say hooking up the cold air intake to a front mount intercooler would increase air flow to the engine so instead of the filter being in the wheel well it would be the intercooler sucking in the air trough the front ?? ( thats just something i thought of )

thoughts/comments welcome.

speedballer4life · Post by **speedballer4life** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 9:37 am

Multiple air filters is really only needed, if ever on much larger engines than ours, or in high boost engines. Having more than one on a neon wouldn't have any effect.

What do you mean by sucking air in through the intercooler?

If you mean ACROSS the intercooler then no, there is no benifit to that.

Intercooler's are used in boost setups because air under pressure heats up and becomes less dense, so it's run across an intercooler to cool it off and increase it's density, aka more air in the cylinder.

Since N/A air isn't being compressed running it across an intercooler wouldn't cool it down any.

There have been ppl who have used a super cooled air chamber, or put dry ice in their air box as a way of sort of freezing the air, but that's a whole other story.

Neon4Life · Post by **Neon4Life** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 10:02 am

speedballer4life wrote:Multiple air filters is really only needed, if ever on much larger engines than ours, or in high boost engines. Having more than one on a neon wouldn't have any effect.

What do you mean by sucking air in through the intercooler?

If you mean ACROSS the intercooler then no, there is no benifit to that.

Intercooler's are used in boost setups because air under pressure heats up and becomes less dense, so it's run across an intercooler to cool it off and increase it's density, aka more air in the cylinder.

Since N/A air isn't being compressed running it across an intercooler wouldn't cool it down any.

There have been ppl who have used a super cooled air chamber, or put dry ice in their air box as a way of sort of freezing the air, but that's a whole other story.

lol on the dry ice thing but ok i was just wondering. thanks.

excon · Post by **excon** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 5:17 pm

nope. A FMIC only cools the incoming air to the ambient air temperature: that is, it cools it to whatever air temperature is around you, so it would serve no benefit.

Adionik · Post by **Adionik** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 5:45 pm

Pleeeeeaaaaaase do not use a front mount as an intake

Donkeypuncher · Post by **Donkeypuncher** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 6:10 pm

If you have the aem intake already, just leave it the way it is. It would be better to focus on the other restrictions on our cars, such as the muffler and intake/exhaust manifold.

Neon4Life · Post by **Neon4Life** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 8:52 pm

Donkeypuncher wrote:If you have the aem intake already, just leave it the way it is. It would be better to focus on the other restrictions on our cars, such as the muffler and intake/exhaust manifold.

im not adding a fmic it was just a random thought. and yeah i am keeping my aem intake as it was almost $300 like 4 years ago. but yeah i know about exhaust and the intake manifold but i dont worry about my engine rite now as it is just a 2.0 stock cause once i can save me some money up again im doing the 2.4 swap.

Donkeypuncher · Post by **Donkeypuncher** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 10:09 pm

The front mount intake was popular with the ricer crowd some years ago. It was more to make it look like you have a front mount intercooler, but actually loses power due to the distance the air has to travel.

Post by **occasional demons** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:50 pm

speedballer4life wrote: Intercooler's are used in boost setups because air under pressure heats up and becomes less dense, so it's run across an intercooler to cool it off and increase it's density, aka more air in the cylinder.

That is only true to a point. If the IC is too large or ambient temps are too cold the air becomes too dense, decreasing boost/velocity causing a loss in power.

Donkeypuncher · Post by **Donkeypuncher** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 2:11 am

Very true. It's just like exhaust velocity, if the piping is too big it cools down the gases and flows less than a smaller diameter pipe. It's the same reason 2.25" exhaust works better on an NA engine than a 2.5" exhaust.

Bigger is not always better unless you need the flow.