Couple problems just happened tonight pics inside

silver00neon · Post by **silver00neon** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 12:59 am

ok so I'm driving home tonight when I kinda slid off the road but nothing major happened I did though have to pull the car up and reverse it a couple times and meanwhile giving her a little umppfff and made it out. Well about a quarter mile from my house my car suddenly felt liek I had no power steering. So me thinking the worst thought I busted a line o something dumb like that. Got the car home and was looking under it and saw my power steering belt was hanging down close to the ground. Well that's not the problem, the problem is this....

What would cause that to happen? And how hard is this gonna be to replace? Do any of you think I could just put it back on and it'll stay? I was thinking maybe it came off due to a peice of the pully getting stuck under the belt thus "prying" it off the pully. Lastly what all does my power steering belt operate?

And while I was under there looking around I notcied a black wire that seemed to be connected to something at one end (not sure what couldnt really follow it to where it came from) But the other end is hanging freely. Any ideas what this is? It's on the passanger side front and in the pic you have to kinda tilt your head and you can see it I just basically put my phone in an area close to it and snapped the pic.

I apologize for the bad quality. You would think a Blackberry would have better quality then this....

I appriciate all the help I may get on this!!!

And just for the record you guys are awesome!!

Post by **occasional demons** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 1:17 am

Hmmm, what I don't see in that pic is the tensioner pulley that keeps the tension on the belt. (Could be just the angle) The belt runs the power steering pump and the A/C compressor. If the tensioner pulley snapped off, you may be able to get a pulley, but the bolt that holds it on is another matter. If it damaged it to where a pulley can't be put back on, you're looking at a motor mount bracket, and a PS pump or pulley, if it can be replaced on the pump? This is the tensioner pulley/motormount plate: http://chronoscender.freeservers.com/ne ... ptens.html

I think the wire is a ground wire for the wheel bearings to dissipate static electricity. Does one end clip to the body by the plastic plug?

silver00neon · Post by **silver00neon** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 1:32 am

I dont know if the wire has a clip or not, I would go check but it's raining bad and it's cold! lol
But if in fact that is what it's for is there anything I need to worry about with it not being hooked up/attached?

as for the tensioner where would that be exactly? I can check that and snap another pic really quick (the wire though calls for me to get on the wet ground and look and I'm not wanting to do that again lol)

Post by **occasional demons** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 1:49 am

This is the tensioner arm, but the idler pulley may just be out of veiw in the pic. A 17mm wrench fits the ear that is on the top to rotate it to install the belt. IDK if the PS pulley can be replaced or not. Or if you have to buy a pump assy, and install your reservior.

silver00neon · Post by **silver00neon** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 1:51 am

ok I think I know what your talking about, there IS another pully down there. It just isnt visible due to the angle I used to take the pic.

Just saw your from Ohio too! I appriciate you taking the time to help me out man!! Thanks a million!

04R/T · Post by **04R/T** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 5:39 am

occasional demons wrote:IDK if the PS pulley can be replaced or not. Or if you have to buy a pump assy

The pulley is replaceable but you need a power steering pulley puller and installer. When working on this pulley use caution, its a plastic composite with a steel hub. Drop your new pulley while installing it and you may be taking a trip to buy another.

silver00neon · Post by **silver00neon** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:42 am

So till I pick up a replacment pully, will it be ok if I drive the car as it is till then?

Danteneon · Post by **Danteneon** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:54 am

Power Steering Pulley part #4668252...MSRP $21.75

You can run without the belt for now. You just won't have power steering or A/C (in defrost mode) till you fix it.

Post by **occasional demons** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:08 am

Wow, a reasonable price! But then, I always check dealer pricing first. Sometimes you pay more for the packaging than the part for aftermarket.

Danteneon · Post by **Danteneon** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:15 am

Yep, it is pretty cheap. I didn't want him to wast time searching the aftermarket when the dealer part is so reasonable

silver00neon · Post by **silver00neon** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:27 am

Danteneon wrote:Yep, it is pretty cheap. I didn't want him to wast time searching the aftermarket when the dealer part is so reasonable

Why thank you good sir!

Danteneon · Post by **Danteneon** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:31 am

You are quite welcome

Donkeypuncher · Post by **Donkeypuncher** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 2:19 pm

I think the black wire just clips onto the frame, but I can't remember exactly.

NickKo · Post by **NickKo** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 2:43 pm

Danteneon wrote:Power Steering Pulley part #4668252...MSRP $21.75

You can run without the belt for now. You just won't have power steering or A/C (in defrost mode) till you fix it.

THANKS for posting that P/N, Dante......

That p/n should probably be stickied or archived in a part number thread or something.
This seems to be one of those items that 2nd gen owners end up needing every now and then...... this is not the 1st time that I have heard of a 2nd gen owner needing a P/S pulley.

- Nick

contagious18 · Post by **contagious18** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 6:36 pm

make sure dat tensioner pulley is good, my tensioner went bad broke da power steering pulley replaced da power steering pulley and it broke my pulley again so check that too

silver00neon · Post by **silver00neon** » Thu Dec 25, 2008 2:09 am

Ok dumb question probly but how can I tell if my tensioner has gone bad??

And if the wire just "clips" onto the frame...... What's its purpous?

Post by **occasional demons** » Thu Dec 25, 2008 11:50 am

The pulley should spin freely and queitly. The spring tension, IDK if there is a spec on that, other than the arm moving smoothly.

As for the wire:

occasional demons wrote: I think the wire is a ground wire for the wheel bearings to dissipate static electricity. Does one end clip to the body by the plastic plug?

They used ground straps on the eighties FWD cars a lot. The bearings would turn to black dust w/out them.

silver00neon · Post by **silver00neon** » Thu Dec 25, 2008 2:20 pm

Well it does spin pretty effortlessly but every now and then it feels as if it "catches".... So you think its time for a new p.s. pump?

Post by **occasional demons** » Thu Dec 25, 2008 10:33 pm

I was referring to the idler pulley, but I think the pump may be fine, unless it is locking solid, then turns free. Not sure why it broke like that, unless when you hit the ditch, the mounts let the engine move enough for the pulley to contact the "frame".

NickKo · Post by **NickKo** » Fri Dec 26, 2008 1:03 am

occasional demons wrote:I was referring to the idler pulley, but I think the pump may be fine, unless it is locking solid, then turns free. Not sure why it broke like that, unless when you hit the ditch, the mounts let the engine move enough for the pulley to contact the "frame".

.... Or else maybe debris got kicked into the engine compartment ??
It's possible, under those circumstances.....

- Nick

Danteneon · Post by **Danteneon** » Fri Dec 26, 2008 9:31 am

NickKo wrote:
Danteneon wrote:Power Steering Pulley part #4668252...MSRP $21.75

You can run without the belt for now. You just won't have power steering or A/C (in defrost mode) till you fix it.
THANKS for posting that P/N, Dante......

That p/n should probably be stickied or archived in a part number thread or something.
This seems to be one of those items that 2nd gen owners end up needing every now and then...... this is not the 1st time that I have heard of a 2nd gen owner needing a P/S pulley.

- Nick

Thanks for bringing that up. I thought it had been posted before, but I was wrong. It's in the P/N:Engine section now