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I just bought one, was it a mistake?

uh... no...

yes now sell it to me lol

I couldn't find much info on them, and the one thing I saw was saying it was crap. Now Im not 100% sure I can use it though, is there a difference between atx and mtx TBs?

Not really other than a possible kick down cable mount

Yeah the newer TB's are all the same from what I know. IIRC some first gen ATX models came with a slightly larger TB.

OB wrote:Yeah the newer TB's are all the same from what I know. IIRC some first gen ATX models came with a slightly larger TB.

yeah 2gn is the same sizes between atx and mtx


1st gen had larger atx TB's i dont know exact size

1st gen: ATX = 52mm, MTX = 49mm
2nd gen: All = 52mm

Have you received it yet?

If not, it may have been a mistake just for ordering it from Howell

Are you putting it on a 1gn? Or fabbing an adapter?
I would buy the BBK 56mm Ford TB from Summit racing if I was going new. Either way you would need an adapter for 2gn, but the Ford adapter would prolly be the easier to fab.

Edit: http://www.howellautomotive.com/index.a ... ProdID=412

They make a 55mm Throttle Body for 2nd gen Neons ??

- Nick

NickKo wrote:They make a 55mm Throttle Body for 2nd gen Neons ??

- Nick

From the link I posted above.

AFX 55mm Bored Throttle Bodies Talon 1995 to 1999 2.0 Non-Turbo 55mm AFXDSTB95S Bore yours to 55mm $100 turn around is approximately 2 weeks.

I find it interesting they are selling knock offs of Crane cams under their brand name.

AFX SOHC Camshaft 158-0010 Dodge Neon $344.00
AFX SOHC Camshaft 158-0012 Dodge Neon $344.00
AFX SOHC Camshaft 158-0014 Dodge Neon $344.00
This is identical to the old Crane #10... 12... 14

Well I got it in and it looks like its a 60mm mpx,not the afx 55mm.

Techincally from what I have read from Gary Howell, the 60mm Throttlebody is overkill for any Naturally Aspirated build. He had the most gain from the 55mm Throttlebody, with his All-Motor build. The 60mm+ is mostly for Boosted builds. (but the 60mm is more readily available nowadays.)

yea thats what I have heard too, which is why I jumped on it thinking it was a 55mm.

AllMotorWes wrote:Techincally from what I have read from Gary Howell, the 60mm Throttlebody is overkill for any Naturally Aspirated build. He had the most gain from the 55mm Throttlebody, with his All-Motor build. The 60mm+ is mostly for Boosted builds. (but the 60mm is more readily available nowadays.)

Figures, my n/a Neon has a 60mm and my boosted 2.4 has a 52mm. I wish I could switch them. However, I haven't had any issues with the 60mm on my car for over 80,000 miles.

To be honest FWIW, when I had the 65mm, it pulled harder at 85+ mph, than the 60mm. Real world pwns dynos and math.

The 60 is more driver friendly tho.