5 SPEED DOHC 2GN

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5 SPEED DOHC 2GN

Post by mattern248 » Tue Aug 25, 2009 9:55 pm

ok so i have found a first gen dohc with a metal intake mani. and other first gen with a 5speed how can i make those to parts work on my 04 atx. i am really interested in the head i would think that it would bolt right up just needs to run ms right?? and as for the trans would i just swap bell housings and get all nessecary parts for it???
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Post by occasional demons » Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:20 pm

You would need a 2gn bell housing. And of course the related 2gn hardware to make the clutch work. Is the 1gn MTX the 3.55 or 3.94 ratio? If it is the 3.55, just use the whole 2gn unit.

MS should cure the NGC woes, but hopefully you won't ever need to get it emmision tested, as IDK how you will get it to pass. Unless you can use a 2.4 PCM to somehow slide by.
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Post by mattern248 » Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:25 pm

well were i live no need to pass emissions as i am running no cat now with the sensor kicked back alot. so are first and second gen blocks the same???
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Post by occasional demons » Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:30 pm

Bill
Probably shouldn't listen to anything your penis says, that guy's a dick.
Patience, of course, is a very powerful weapon, but sometimes I start to regret that it is not a firearm.
Too much time spent here is a sign of a bad case of Ownaneonvirus.

2000 Neon MTX swap with '02 R/T PCM
1999 neon coupe 2.4 swap

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Post by silverneontuner » Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:35 pm

do a 5 speed swap and feel the powah

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Post by mattern248 » Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:40 pm

i really want to cuz the trany is in mint condition was my friends car and they only want 81 bucks for it. and 51 for the head and 31 for the 1st gn intake mani
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Post by excon » Wed Aug 26, 2009 6:05 pm

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Post by mattern248 » Wed Aug 26, 2009 6:19 pm

i know im stoked!!!! but now as for the intake mani i dont like how the bottom half goes upward how can i change that
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Post by occasional demons » Wed Aug 26, 2009 11:21 pm

Cut and weld. That is generally the solution used. Or send it as a core to AMM.
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Probably shouldn't listen to anything your penis says, that guy's a dick.
Patience, of course, is a very powerful weapon, but sometimes I start to regret that it is not a firearm.
Too much time spent here is a sign of a bad case of Ownaneonvirus.

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1999 neon coupe 2.4 swap

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Post by mattern248 » Thu Aug 27, 2009 1:32 am

ok that works. thanks so if i still use the mtx tranny from the 1st gen neon, what all do i need to make it work for my 04 atx so for i know i need

bell housing (hydro)
master and slave sylinders
03+ pedals
shifter cables
shifter
anything else??????
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Post by excon » Thu Aug 27, 2009 12:43 pm

you won't be able to rev over 4000 rpms, so drive it to the dealer and have them flash the MAGNUM software to your pcm
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Post by mattern248 » Sat Aug 29, 2009 8:44 pm

i thought i would have to do the rewire for the osm isn't it like two wries or so??
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