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Fireball Muffler?

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:52 pm
by Art
Has anyone ever tried a muffler like this on their neon?


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JDM-FIRE ... 06.c0.m245

I'm interested because it costs about $40.00 w/shipping.

I don't want my car to sound like a lawnmower either....just want something to make it sound deeper.

Any suggestions? :D

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:12 pm
by racer12306
moving to engine. Exhaust is a tricky one to mess with, however this reviews section is reserved for people giving their reviews of a product.

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:13 pm
by racer12306
That appears to be your standard run of the mill fart can.

I wouldn't put it on my car.

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 2:19 pm
by DR. GONZO
MAAAAD JDM YO!!!!!!!! LOL

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 2:23 pm
by Mr Josh Zombie
i've suggest this set up to a lot of people on this forum, and everyone that i know of that's ran it is VERY happy with the sound.

Go buy a used, stock axel-back SRT piping
buy a 31"
take parts to an exhaust shop, have them weld the glasspack deadcenter of the midpipe, cut off the old muffler, weld in the axel-back.

you'll be amazed at the sound. it's the only thing i miss from my neon.

total cost is about $120 but completely worth it

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 2:24 pm
by Art
MAAAAD JDM YO!!!!!!!! LOL
Does this mean it's good or bad?

I used to own a Camaro Z28 before my neon, so I knew what to put into a V8 muscle car. (Borla exhaust, K&N intakes, underdrive pulleys, 3000 Stall Converter, Hypertech tuning, etc)

This is my first 4 cylinder car, and I don't want to sound like a weedeater on wheels!

Any suggestions?

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 2:27 pm
by Mr Josh Zombie
my suggestion = best


and he's making fun of you

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 2:27 pm
by Art
Opi wrote:i've suggest this set up to a lot of people on this forum, and everyone that i know of that's ran it is VERY happy with the sound.

Go buy a used, stock axel-back SRT piping
buy a 31"
take parts to an exhaust shop, have them weld the glasspack deadcenter of the midpipe, cut off the old muffler, weld in the axel-back.

you'll be amazed at the sound. it's the only thing i miss from my neon.

total cost is about $120 but completely worth it

Opi, sounds like a good setup. There is a muffler shop about 2 blocks from my house. I've known the guy for years and always gives me great prices on exhaust and such. Can you believe this guy welded up my whole Camaro setup for $20.00!

:D

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 2:34 pm
by esteinmaier
I prefer the moroso spiral-flo to the sound of a resonator. And if you put one in toward the front or back, you can calm it down even more by dropping another one in.

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 2:38 pm
by occasional demons
Being a 16 valve 4 cylinder, it is very hard to cheaply get a good sound. A single outlet is a little easier to keep the sound level down.
IDK, the eight valve 4's I have owned never souned as "ricey" as the 16 valve.

I have done what Opi suggested, and to me it still sounds like a weed eater. But then, maybe being corn fed, and raised on Chrysler big blocks has had a huge influence on what sounds good to me.
Right now I have a Walker Quiet Flow V6 Camaro muffler, with a small resonator in the mid pipe. It is prolly a touch louder than the stock R/T muffler. Not sure why they call them quiet flow, but maybe for the intended application, with oem resonators intact, it might be quiet.

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 2:39 pm
by Mat00ES
Yep, the last guy who had the exhaust we buried him right next to that guy who had the razzi kit. jk


Full srt catback
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Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 2:45 pm
by Mr Josh Zombie
occasional demons wrote:I have done what Opi suggested, and to me it still sounds like a weed eater. But then, maybe being corn fed, and raised on Chrysler big blocks has had a huge influence on what sounds good to me.
it still doesn't sound anywhere near as good as a V8, but it's one of the better setups i've hard on a 4 cyl outside of subbies.

and hey, i'm cornfed, raised on a farm ya know.

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 2:47 pm
by occasional demons
You need a clip of that droning at speed. :D

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 5:28 pm
by Art
That would be great, anybody have a clip of this muffler (the fireball style).

I used to have a Borla Catback on my V8 Camaro (sounded extra sweet and rumbled low!)

I never though about putting a V6 Camaro muffler on it...sounds like an idea.

I have a setup idea...3 inch piping from the header back, then a Folgers Coffee Can, and a 6 inch tip! (just kidding!)

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 7:30 pm
by excon
The fart can (or cannon as others call it) eliminates the restriction of the muffler. If you're trying to make more power for the least amount of money possible, this is the best way.

It will sound slightly better than a civic (because of engine size and gearing) but not much.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YP9amSGMYz4

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 7:32 pm
by racer12306
Yeah, gearing has everything to do with the sound of an engine.

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 7:50 pm
by SOKADAO954
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=insNiblJ6r4



Borla makes a decent dual set up for our cars.

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:41 pm
by n20sxt
racer12306 wrote:Yeah, gearing has everything to do with the sound of an engine.
:rofl:

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:41 pm
by gsxr7racer
I have a oval single inlet single outlet straight through muffler welded into an SRT-4 exhaust and it sounds very nice. No droning and a nice deep tone when you lay into the throttle. This is the second Neon I have had an oval muffler on and I swear by them. Those round fart cans don't allow enough room for the sound to deaden so once they wear in a little they sound like shit IMO.

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:47 pm
by n20sxt
Straight pipe, no cat straight through muffler ftw
then again im boosted so the turbo deadens the sound pretty good

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 8:34 pm
by excon
n20sxt wrote:
racer12306 wrote:Yeah, gearing has everything to do with the sound of an engine.
:rofl:
ok folks. When cruising with my ATX at 80 mph i'm doing around 3000 rpms. Tell me that doesn't get annoying quick on the highway with a fart can. It's obnoxious, loud, and drones with my setup but I love it.

If you put this piece on a caravan with a "better" final gear you'd be doing around 2000 rpms at 80 mph. The exhaust note would be less on the highway. :thebirdman:

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 9:00 pm
by occasional demons
Opi wrote:
and hey, i'm cornfed, raised on a farm ya know.
Nothing like lurking in the corn fields, scaring the crap out of unsuspecting kids in the middle of the night. Good times.... :twisted:

Tho you may just have the edge on me there. :D

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:51 am
by Hudson_Neon
SOKADAO954 wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=insNiblJ6r4



Borla makes a decent dual set up for our cars.
i'll second this... this is what i have. i love it!

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 12:11 pm
by fixitmattman
Have to agree with opi's setup. Similar setup I run as well. It's been commented on a number of times for sounding pretty decent for a 4 banger.