whats the best way to go

toddw814 · Post by **toddw814** » Sun Nov 15, 2009 6:49 pm

so it just pops off and you flip it around put the pan on and fill it back up with fluid lol ?
and im on 4 different neon forums but this one seems to have the realist people and is run the best
neons.org isnt to bad but the poeple on this forum seem to be more helpful

Post by **racer12306** » Sun Nov 15, 2009 6:50 pm

This is why you need to search:

viewtopic.php?t=5100

toddw814 · Post by **toddw814** » Sun Nov 15, 2009 7:02 pm

wow that is sweet thank you very much
i useally search the how tos but i must have missed this
thank you

ItsRobbie · Post by **ItsRobbie** » Sun Nov 15, 2009 9:57 pm

with that turbo kit....what hp will he be running?

n20sxt · Post by **n20sxt** » Sun Nov 15, 2009 10:58 pm

ItsRobbie wrote:with that turbo kit....what hp will he be running?

what turbo kit r you talking about?

toddw814 · Post by **toddw814** » Mon Nov 16, 2009 1:16 am

n20sxt wrote:
ItsRobbie wrote:with that turbo kit....what hp will he be running?
what turbo kit r you talking about?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... 905wt_1010

UriahRR · Post by **UriahRR** » Mon Nov 16, 2009 2:41 am

ItsRobbie wrote:with that turbo kit....what hp will he be running?

Dead.

n20sxt · Post by **n20sxt** » Mon Nov 16, 2009 11:38 am

UriahRR wrote:
ItsRobbie wrote:with that turbo kit....what hp will he be running?
Dead.

^ Agreed

toddw814 · Post by **toddw814** » Mon Nov 16, 2009 3:25 pm

i think for now after speakin to some of you im gonna make it breath and get an intake and full exhaust
then a later tiem get the cam and pistons
unless i run into a nice cam for a good price
what type of cams would you suggest like a cran 16 ?
and after get some of your info i am gonna replace timeing belt and water pump b/c i dont think its ever been changed from factory

n20sxt · Post by **n20sxt** » Mon Nov 16, 2009 5:21 pm

toddw814 wrote:i think for now after speakin to some of you im gonna make it breath and get an intake and full exhaust
then a later tiem get the cam and pistons
unless i run into a nice cam for a good price
what type of cams would you suggest like a cran 16 ?
and after get some of your info i am gonna replace timeing belt and water pump b/c i dont think its ever been changed from factory

I can understand if your set on keeping your car N/A but from what ive seen your wasting your money. (unless you plan to spray)
Save up and boost

just my 2 cents..

Post by **racer12306** » Mon Nov 16, 2009 5:25 pm

There is no such thing as a Crane #16 cam for a SOHC.

Please search a lot. You will come across stuff that you wouldn't think to ask.

ItsRobbie · Post by **ItsRobbie** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 7:07 pm

someone told me a go to guy on here for turbo'ing 2.0L...forgot the name though.
so who's good at this? just AIM me please, if you have free time.
iitsrobbie <-- sn

MoxHair · Post by **MoxHair** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 7:58 pm

esteinmaier

He's the pro when it comes to Turbo 2.0l

mikeb818 · Post by **mikeb818** » Wed Nov 18, 2009 7:31 pm

haha $1500 MPx 2.4L rebuild

toddw814 · Post by **toddw814** » Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:20 am

if i do the 5 speed swap will i need the comp out of the donated car along with the harness

Post by **occasional demons** » Thu Nov 19, 2009 8:07 am

Not 100% necessary, but if it is available, may as well. (As long as it is not from a '03 - up. Assuming you car is '02 - older)

You really need to shrink your sig down to similar to other ppl's tho....

The sooner the better!

DoubtedNeon · Post by **DoubtedNeon** » Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:25 am

I would personally do a ms3 computer swap, and get a rebuild kit, the megasquirt would give u a fully controlled tune and stronger internals would allow you to boost later, after that save up for a turbo, i know right now what you want, and thats probably power right this instant, but in reality you will be more happy with a turbo, skys the limit with a turbo on.

and in the long run u will be happy with the rebuild because you will have the car for another 100k with no internal problems.

theres my .02.

engine rebuild.

tranny swap.

later in life...

ms.

boost.

XD

toddw814 · Post by **toddw814** » Sun Nov 22, 2009 11:05 pm

well i think the best way to go right now with the best perfomance would be a comp cam 400 with magnum springs and a full exhaust with an intake manifold with 60 mm TB
it will cost a lill bit more then a grand but thats ok and i think it will give me the best performance
and i think befor i do that im gonna get different cam gears water and oil bump timing belt and maybe a valve job
im looking into a full 5 speed swap right now
and if i can pick up an lsd for a good price i am gonna do that to
then after all thats taken care of im gonna do the turbo and bore the it .020 over with high compresion pistons but thats a year or so from now

Post by **racer12306** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 5:38 pm

You aren't gonna want high compression pistons and a turbo.

For a street car, unless you stay very very low on the boost, there isn't gas available besides E85 that can support that much cylinder pressure. Not only that, the tuning window shrinks and I'm sure keeping the head on the engine would become a problem.

I would love to see a 10.5:1 engine with a decent size turbo moving 25psi. Would make for an insane setup, if you could keep the head on it.

ZeroChad · Post by **ZeroChad** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 5:56 pm

^ That's where I'm going

toddw814 · Post by **toddw814** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:08 pm

so you would say get it .020 over and get pistons with about same compresion
or you think it would be better to just get the head of a DOHC and put it on the SOHC bottom end
and go that route

ZeroChad · Post by **ZeroChad** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:39 pm

Its really up to you and depends what your goals are. If you're into the DOHC head at all, do some reading on neons.org. I don't think I'd boost the stock SOHC bottom end though. Not only will you be limited by the cast components, but won't have fresh rings and cylinder bores.

toddw814 · Post by **toddw814** » Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:28 am

it sounds like it would be easyer and save me money by just swapping a DOHC motor in or doing the srt4 swap all together
lol
if im gonna do it might as well do it right lol and go srt4
that way its already turboed and has lots of room for improvements

JeffB#2 · Post by **JeffB#2** » Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:40 am

Hudson_Neon wrote:you NEED new rods. neither JE (yay!) or Wiseco (ick) make pistons for stock rods.

both are fine, neither one has more than a small advantage over the other in any one area. wiseco are cheaper to buy considering that they normally come with rings and JE typically don't.

Adionik · Post by **Adionik** » Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:58 am

DoubtedNeon wrote:I would personally do a ms3 computer swap, and get a rebuild kit, the megasquirt would give u a fully controlled tune and stronger internals would allow you to boost later, after that save up for a turbo, i know right now what you want, and thats probably power right this instant, but in reality you will be more happy with a turbo, skys the limit with a turbo on.

and in the long run u will be happy with the rebuild because you will have the car for another 100k with no internal problems.

theres my .02.

engine rebuild.

tranny swap.

later in life...

ms.

boost.

XD

People blow built motors ALL the time. Whether it be shitty tuning or just a weak link...

of course it is a billion times better than stock. But not always bulletproof

DoubtedNeon · Post by **DoubtedNeon** » Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:34 am

Idk, car should run fine and be plenty fast/reliable at 200hp running stock internals with boost, our engines will pop at 250, with the right tune u have plenty of room for stress, ur even safer after u put in the forged internals.

toddw814 · Post by **toddw814** » Thu Nov 26, 2009 10:07 pm

what sounds better to get right now
sport line springs $115 shipped
karzera springs $50 +shipping
obx header and down pipe $100 shipped
or full cat back exhaust off srt4$100 +shipping

UriahRR · Post by **UriahRR** » Thu Nov 26, 2009 10:36 pm

toddw814 wrote:what sounds better to get right now
sport line springs $115 shipped
karzera springs $50 +shipping
obx header and down pipe $100 shipped
or full cat back exhaust off srt4$100 +shipping

All of it. Or what sounds better is the srt4 exhaust.

toddw814 · Post by **toddw814** » Thu Nov 26, 2009 10:46 pm

UriahRR wrote:
toddw814 wrote:what sounds better to get right now
sport line springs $115 shipped
karzera springs $50 +shipping
obx header and down pipe $100 shipped
or full cat back exhaust off srt4$100 +shipping
All of it. Or what sounds better is the srt4 exhaust.

next pay i can only get one and i dont know which one to decide on

INVUJerry · Post by **INVUJerry** » Thu Nov 26, 2009 10:50 pm

Don't do an OBX header and downpipe with an SRT-4 exhaust. You'll want to shoot yourself in the face as soon as you start it. It is going to be so stupid loud and annoying without a cat on it you will hate life. You will need a good muffler to take some of the edge off of not having a cat.