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I need more power

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 9:54 pm
by Alex Kurdian
Hi Guys
I have the stock 2.0L engine 2001 Neon ATX 4 speed...I have a remus exhaust and KN air filter in...I don't wanna put in a a cold air as I don't want hydrolock...

Can I do anything to get more power without killing the trans or engine?

Also i dont wanna pull the engine apart cant afford that...

?? :tardbang:

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 9:56 pm
by racer12306
I think the biggest issue will be cost. Shipping to Australia will probably be a bitch.

Good places to start would be an underdrive pulley, a magnum header and a bigger throttle body. Not a ton of power, but a little extra.

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 9:59 pm
by Broken Glass
Also a magnum intake Mani and maybe a mild cam could help a little

edit, just saw you didnt wanna pull the engine apart, so i would go with everything else listed in this thread

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 10:30 pm
by OB
Weight reduction is free and actually more effective than almost everything listed above. Take out 75-100 lbs and you'll see a huge difference in acceleration. Also, unless you regularly drive through 2 ft of standing water, hydrolock isn't a concern. That only happens to people who are either careless or clueless. :tardbang:

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 10:56 pm
by excon
if you're lowered it's my understanding that you can hydrolock your engine if the filter is completely submerged in water. The filter sits above the base of the front fascia, so in reality you only need 6" of standing water...

+1 to weight reduction. Although, your friends may make fun of you if your interior is gutted... Go for the trunk carpet, padding underneath, and spare tire cover (~15lbs).

UDP and 60mm TB were the most effective in my opinion.

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 10:58 pm
by Broken Glass
excon wrote:if you're lowered it's my understanding that you can hydrolock your engine if the filter is completely submerged in water. The filter sits above the base of the front fascia, so in reality you only need 6" of standing water...

+1 to weight reduction. Although, your friends may make fun of you if your interior is gutted... Go for the trunk carpet, padding underneath, and spare tire cover (~15lbs).

UDP and 60mm TB were the most effective in my opinion.
true, but at least where i live i dont think ive ever driven through any water deeper than an inch or two. it never hurts to be prepared tho, bypass valve maybe?

Throttle body

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 11:08 pm
by Alex Kurdian
if you put in a bigger throttle body is there any modification or tuning? is it plug and play?

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 11:13 pm
by Broken Glass
one a 2001 i believe it is, on some of the 2003 and up car it sends em into limp mode, not on mine tho thankfully. depending on the throttle body you go with, some will need adaptor plates. but the 60mm from modern performance just clamps right in and swap the senors over

Edit: your in luck, they are on clearance at MP

http://www.modernperformance.com/cleara ... 597dd7e32d

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 11:44 pm
by OB
The TB is good for a boost in throttle response, probably not much actual power though.

And back to the intake discussion. My car is pretty damn low and my ICEMAN filter is at least a solid foot off the ground. I won't even drive my car through a 3" puddle though, thus preventing ever having an issue. It's pretty simple to avoid.

downpour

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 11:47 pm
by Alex Kurdian
Problem with rain down here ...where I live... is that it can downpour quite bad ..I am worried about water splashing up and the air intake sucking up constant sprays of water from not only cars in front but puddles!

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 11:51 pm
by occasional demons
Water spray is not a big concern, it is a solid pool that will kill the bottom end.

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 12:02 am
by OB
^Indeed. Mist is no big deal.

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 12:02 am
by Fuzzyneon
OB wrote:Weight reduction is free and actually more effective than almost everything listed above. Take out 75-100 lbs and you'll see a huge difference in acceleration. Also, unless you regularly drive through 2 ft of standing water, hydrolock isn't a concern. That only happens to people who are either careless or clueless. :tardbang:
truth i ran my aem in several territorial downpours aviod big puddles and no its not becuasre blasting through them AVOID THEM

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 1:15 am
by n20sxt
Nitrous Oxide... its simple, reliable and will destroy all the mods listed above by far power wise. Best bang for your buck
unless of coarse you wanna keep it N/A, in that case i say get a new car :lol: