Want more response at the gas pedal

'05/2.0Sport · Post by **'05/2.0Sport** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 6:16 pm

I've got an '05 SX2.0 sport, what mods are available and what has been tried and tested? I'm a Newb to the site, but i figured you'd all know about mods that would help me out. I'm not looking to do a swap, I just want a bit more power. bolt-ons are fine, and I'm looking to spend about $500, so what will be the best bang for my buck?

Thanks

'05/2.0Sport · Post by **'05/2.0Sport** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 6:32 pm

also something that is not going to void my warranty as well

unsuper man · Post by **unsuper man** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 8:24 pm

nothing. when your warrety is up, a turbo will make your car more responsive.

or, NITROUS

'05/2.0Sport · Post by **'05/2.0Sport** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 8:34 pm

is it possible to have the ECU reprogrammed without voiding the warranty?

Muzzysgirl · Post by **Muzzysgirl** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 8:41 pm

Pretty much anything you do can void the warranty. You have to decide if having a faster/smoother running car is more than you wanting a warranty. Personally some of the Dodge techs scare me in my area, I wouldn't let them touch my engine unless I had to.

BlackRoseRacing · Post by **BlackRoseRacing** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 7:11 am

There are numerous posts on How to's in here. Just remember, if you do a mod to your car and something were to happen, you take it to the dealer and they prove the mod you did caused the problem...then no warranty.
I had a filter bolted directly to my TB without an airbox, I hit a water hole, and sucked the water into my engine...hydrolocked it and threw a rod through the block.
Technically, they could have voided my warranty there, because if I had the stock airbox on the car, it would not have happened. But I knew the techs and manager and I was safe. But if it was any other dealership, they could have laughed at me and I would have been out $3k...

nodestiny · Post by **nodestiny** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 1:32 pm

Warranty

People still have these? GEEZ!

Hehhee, as long as you know what you are doing (or have a pretty good stab at it) you probably wont mess anything up with the installation of aftermarket parts. If you put a CAI on and a few months later a strut blows out, They should honer the warranty unless they have reason to beleive you have altered the strut specificly.

CAI, 60MM TB, firmer motor mount inserts (SHOULD NOT void any warranty except if MM's tear, which i doubt will happen as MM inserts help the life of them by a lot), aftermarket exhaust muffler (shouldnt hurt warranty either, just exhaust warranty but that isnt a biggie). If you have the extra money, get yourself a new header, too. MIGHT effect motor warranty as it is directly on the head.

Baal · Post by **Baal** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 11:49 pm

ive heard that the TB helps with response.

Its very weird but now that i just installed my custom long tube header i feel MUCH more responsiveness, probably i gained a lot low end torque but thats not usually what a LTH does... weird.

LCPLPunk · Post by **LCPLPunk** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 7:43 am

Underdrive pulley..although i'm not sure they are out for 05's yet.

However..save your money and get a turbo.

Neonix · Post by **Neonix** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 10:52 am

I've noticed with my TB that there is a bit more response.

Mmmm.....probably my favorite mod yet.

LCPLPunk · Post by **LCPLPunk** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 10:53 am

my favorite mod will be about 100 bucks...

SRT Turbo.

Neonix · Post by **Neonix** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 10:54 am

Yeah I think if I had that mod, it would be my favorite also.

LCPLPunk · Post by **LCPLPunk** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 10:56 am

If you remove weight you'll gain performance..

Remove the backseat and other non-essential items from the car.

Novajoe · Post by **Novajoe** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 3:17 pm

a bigger throttle body will probably be your best bet for improving responsiveness within your budget. It won't however, give you any more hp or tq.

Honestly, you should just save your money up for turbo or a fast car. Ask anyone who's gone the bolt-on route if they are happy with their performance for the amount of money they've spent and I guarantee you that the majority will tell you they aren't happy with it. Bolt-ons are for v8s, 4cyls need forced induction to go fast for a reasonable amount of money.

dblsg · Post by **dblsg** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 8:52 pm

LCPLPunk wrote:Underdrive pulley..although i'm not sure they are out for 05's yet

i got one..... although, i don't know if i have any warranty left (look at sig)

LCPLPunk · Post by **LCPLPunk** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 8:57 pm

oh, well there ya go then.

I thought i had heard issues of the UDPs giving CEL codes or something with the NGCs..

dblsg · Post by **dblsg** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 9:54 pm

^ no sir, just checked codes earlier in the day... just got the same one i've had... no cat.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 10:19 pm

u could also lengthen your throttle cable becuase most neons throttle body dont open completly it opens at this angle at WOT / vs the angle it is supposed to have |

dblsg · Post by **dblsg** » Mon Oct 31, 2005 11:57 am

Anonymous User wrote:u could also lengthen your throttle cable becuase most neons throttle body dont open completly it opens at this angle at WOT / vs the angle it is supposed to have |

really? how come no one has mentioned this before?

now if you extend the cabe, wont you cause to open even less?

Frizbe · Post by **Frizbe** » Mon Oct 31, 2005 1:14 pm

dblsg wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:u could also lengthen your throttle cable becuase most neons throttle body dont open completly it opens at this angle at WOT / vs the angle it is supposed to have |
really? how come no one has mentioned this before?

now if you extend the cabe, wont you cause to open even less?

Yes, I think he means to tighten it.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Mon Oct 31, 2005 3:29 pm

^^yea thats what i meant....if u dont believe me, ask someone to push the gas pedal down all the way with the car off. and check it. you'll see what im talking about.

Frizbe · Post by **Frizbe** » Mon Oct 31, 2005 6:14 pm

I checked mine right after I read this, no problem here.

Baal · Post by **Baal** » Mon Oct 31, 2005 6:40 pm

The neon TB opens perfectly, otherwise trust me the first mod would be a couple of washers in the cable attached to the pedal.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Mon Oct 31, 2005 7:18 pm

hmmm...mine is that way..kinda wierd.

quicksilvr · Post by **quicksilvr** » Mon Oct 31, 2005 8:49 pm

My stock TB opened all the way, and I could feel a definate stop when the gas pedal was pushed all the way in. With my LFS 60mm TB, there is no definate stop feeling to the gas pedal. Rather, the pedal stops when it hits the carpet and I can feel it pushing into the carpet. I think I need to do what Baal said and get some washers in between the end of the cable and the bracket. I can't believe i didn't think of that as being the reason for it feeling that way...it's pretty obvious now. I just don't drive at WOT enough.....

Baal · Post by **Baal** » Mon Oct 31, 2005 11:20 pm

Be careful when tightening the cable, it should hit the carpet at the exact time its open, otherwise after a few hard steps on the gas the cable might snap.