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Srt Koyo Radiator In 05SXT ATX

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 3:47 am
by Caraudioholic24
I did a search and figured out that they fit. Now my question is has anyone done one on an 05 SXT ATX w/ R/T Mag intake??? Just curious since I can get my hands on one cheap. I nned to know if I should look for dual Srt fans or not. Mine has dual now but I heard the srt fits better. Any help would be awesome thanks

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 8:34 am
by Danteneon
The SRT fans are a little lower profile IIRC. That would help quite a bit in clearance for the Magnum intake.

You do know that the Koyo radiators do not have an intergrated trans cooler, yes? You can still use it on an ATX, but you will need an external trans cooler.

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 9:36 am
by DoubtedNeon
are they smaller because of this?

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 9:41 am
by occasional demons
are they smaller because of this?

Radiator, because of the lack of cooler or fans because of thicker radiator?

Or are we talking boobs? :thumbup:

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 9:51 am
by DoubtedNeon
b/c the toyo does not have a trans cooler integrated is it smaller?

we can talk about boobs all day my friend, but then ide miss 3 classes :lol:

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 10:21 am
by Danteneon
You have to remember that the trans cooler is located in the drivers side end tank. The core thickness has nothing to do with that part of it. The SRT radiator does have a thicker core than the regular Neon, but that is for more cooling for the engine.

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 11:15 am
by occasional demons
Danteneon wrote:You have to remember that the trans cooler is located in the drivers side end tank.
Don't SRTs have upper/lower tanks like the regular neons?

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 12:58 pm
by Danteneon
occasional demons wrote:Don't SRTs have upper/lower tanks like the regular neons?
:scratch: Huh?

The radiator (for both SRT and non) consists of the core itself and two end tanks on the side. The ATX has a copper tube type cooler mounted in the drivers side end tank. The MTX have no additional cooler in the tank.

Unless I misunderstood your question :tardbang:

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 1:05 pm
by Caraudioholic24
ok sweet. So are the fans going to be pug and play sice I have the dual fan setup already???



Also whats the best ATX cooler I should get??? Thanks for the quick replys everyone

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 1:15 pm
by Danteneon
The fans should be plug and play. You may have to change the connector on your harness for the fans at worst.

B&M makes a nice trans cooler. Try Here

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 1:39 pm
by Caraudioholic24
Are you referring to the first pic in the link. I like that because it has a mounting plate which should be awesome.

As far as the fans maybe Ill just keep mine. My buddy only has the rad and I really dont feel like hnting down a set of fans. Thanks again.

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 1:49 pm
by Danteneon
You may be OK with your fans. Since all Magnums were MTX and use a single fan, I can't say for sure if you will have any interferance issues with the manifold.

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 1:53 pm
by Caraudioholic24
Well I have the dual fan setup now STOCK. I have an 05 SXT ATX. Im in the process of doing the mag intake swap.


That was my question was if the dual fans will hit the Intake mani. Wasnt sure if anyone on here has done one with any issues.

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 2:52 pm
by LionheartedSXT
I think this may have been covered in a thread i made when I was in need of a new radiator. I was going to go with the koyo but I noticed the thickness of the radiator compared to stock plus the fans and they seem like they would definitely come in contact with my mag intake manifold. So Its up to you if you want to try it.

Something for reference if you haven't see it:
viewtopic.php?t=47569

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 2:53 pm
by Danteneon
That's why I posted what I did...not sure if the dual fans will be an issue or not since the Magnum engine doesn't use them.

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This is the best pic I could find of the room that exists with the single fan. The second fan will be close.

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 3:17 pm
by occasional demons
Danteneon wrote:
occasional demons wrote:Don't SRTs have upper/lower tanks like the regular neons?
:scratch: Huh?

The radiator (for both SRT and non) consists of the core itself and two end tanks on the side. The ATX has a copper tube type cooler mounted in the drivers side end tank. The MTX have no additional cooler in the tank.

Unless I misunderstood your question :tardbang:

Upper tank, lower tank that is what I'm talking about. :lol:
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My understanding is that side tanks run parallel to the tubes (180º), upper/lower run perpendicular. (90º)

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 4:08 pm
by Danteneon
:beatstick:

Goes to show that I've been working in service too long!

OK...subsitute the word "side" in my above posts with the words "top and bottom".

I was thinking of a totally different radiator style. My bad :(

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 9:44 pm
by occasional demons
You were having a "Sundance moment" Those haz side tanks.

Judging from the comparison pic, I think there would be major clearance issues with the SRT fan shroud. That thing is massive.

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 10:45 pm
by Caraudioholic24
yea i think if i do get it im gonna stick with mine. he told me they do mak a dual fan setup if i wanted to get adventurous. a pic is on ebay. im on my phone right now so i cant send a link.

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 6:52 pm
by randomZERO
Not trying to thread jack but if the srt koyo rad fits in a 2gen will the srt rad hoses be the same too? I want the camo samco ones.

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:07 pm
by fixitmattman
For what it's worth, I've got a KOYO oe replacement rad (not the billet) in my 00, it has the built in oil cooler, not used in my case. Although I use single fans I don't believe the doubles are any thicker than the single. Clears the mag manifold just fine.

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 10:30 pm
by Danteneon
randomZERO wrote:Not trying to thread jack but if the srt koyo rad fits in a 2gen will the srt rad hoses be the same too? I want the camo samco ones.
The difference in the upper hose is at the thermostat housing. The bend in the hose at that end is why they wont work.

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 10:34 pm
by randomZERO
Your blue hoses, are they obx?

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 10:45 pm
by Danteneon
Nope, they are the Gates hoses.

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 10:56 pm
by randomZERO
I'm gonna try the red obx hoses when I get around to flushing the system since the samco ones won't work.

Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 1:34 am
by Caraudioholic24
Yea man let me know. I just found a set of black ones on ebay and they are for A/C **SWEET**

Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 2:53 am
by randomZERO
Caraudioholic24 wrote:Yea man let me know. I just found a set of black ones on ebay and they are for A/C **SWEET**
AC?

Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 3:09 am
by Caraudioholic24
yea apparently they make a st for a/c 9air conditioning) and a set w/o a/c. The ones with a/c are harder to find.

Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 3:13 am
by randomZERO
I am either a noob or am just baffled. I dont understand why ac and no ac would matter.

Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 3:20 am
by Caraudioholic24
Im not totally sure. I would say judging from the pics that the lower hoses are different. ones with ac have a sharper curve than the non.

one with
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... gory=33601

w/o
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... gory=33601