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Timing belt cover

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 6:23 pm
by Haganracing
Ok, well I have been wondering.. Is it safe to drive the car around without the timing belt cover?

My dad doesn't want me to, but I have seen pictures of neons with the belt covers off and I'm installing a new cam and adjustable cam gear.

I guess I'm just asking for opinions on this subject.

Thanks guys
-Chris

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 7:14 pm
by OB
I've seen hundreds of cars without anything protecting the timing belt and gear(s), so I assume it's somewhat safe for a DD. However, it's not exactly a portion of the engine you want to risk, since breaking a timing belt often means valve to piston friendship.

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 7:31 pm
by mikeb818
wow. i just had a vision. someone with a vaccum table should make clear ones. that would be dope

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 8:09 pm
by Ntyvirus1
i was wondering the same thing, in for opinions.

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 8:55 pm
by heydockyle
Unless you plan on making the engine bay "show". I would leave it on. Small debris isn't good in between timing belt and cam gear.

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 9:10 pm
by occasional demons
To save some searching...

Shamelessly stolen from Chtear's Project Log:

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There is going to be a lot more visible to keep clean. Also the cables/hoses that are near the area will need to be supported well away. John removed the PS on his, so that cleaned thing up a bit.

Plus there is the risk of losing a finger, etc., while the engine is running. With general common sense, and extra awareness, this shouldn't be a problem. Just don't leave it running with little kids around.

As for driving it, unless you are blasting down loose gravel roads with out a splash shield, it should be fine. I drove my Omni for many miles with out a cover, because it was broke, and I didn't have the spare $ to replace it.

You just can't set stuff near that area while working, then forget about it.

If you go with a nice belt, and keep it tidy, I would go with no cover. Otherwise, just put it back on, and enjoy less to keep nice looking.

A clear cover would be great, if it was easily removed to keep the inside clean. Otherwise it will look like poo after 5,000 miles.

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 9:39 pm
by heydockyle
John's engine bay is so sick.

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 10:15 pm
by 1972demon
im going to be running the bottom half of the timing cover

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 10:17 pm
by Haganracing
Yeah, i was thinking about cutting the top out of the cover.

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 10:18 pm
by 1972demon
with how low i am, i dont want stones hitting the bottom of the belt.

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 10:22 pm
by Ntyvirus1
now the real question is, does anybody make a quality red timing belt.

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 11:15 pm
by stdlystdmufn
i dont have the top-half of my timing cover on

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 1:34 am
by mikeb818
haha someone needs to make a clear one, and you really only need to clean the top of it. idk if it would be that big of problem

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 12:20 pm
by acr
Just cut the top portion off, only the face where the gear will be showing, that way you can tune it.

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 2:32 pm
by neonslg09
Is this easy to take off?

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 2:39 pm
by Danteneon
Yay! I didn't have to whore Chtear for a change :D

Here's the deal...if your car is going to be a DD, do not run it without at least the lower cover. I don't even have the belt splash sheild on there, and there is a very high risk of debris/standing water/snow knocking the belt off. There is a sheild of sorts made into the water pump, but that doesn't cover the entire belt area.

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This is what is exposed from the underside. Just about everything :shock:

My car is only driven when the weather is nice and I avoid rain if possible. I will be running a lower cover once the 2.4 swap is done.

So long story short, if you run no lower cover on a street driven car, you roll the dice.

Oh, and as a side note, my P/S is back on....

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The lines have been run in a different way so as not to be near the timing belt.
heydockyle wrote:John's engine bay is so sick.
Thank you sir :D

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 2:54 pm
by neonslg09
WEAK JOHN WEAK! So disappointed in you.

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 2:56 pm
by Danteneon
:rofl: What can I say...I'm a pussy :lol:

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 3:00 pm
by theTeejmiester
my view on this is that considering where most of you live i wouldn't take it off, or at least leave the bottom half on. i know where i live there is so much crap on the road that i have to repaint my lip kit every year cause the paint is sand blasted off, i wouldn't want that crap in my timing belt, but it does look pretty cool i must admit...

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 3:02 pm
by Haganracing
Haha, I'm just going to cut the top part off so I can adjust the cam.

Thanks for the input guys!

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Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 3:37 pm
by gtxtreme19
Haha that's the first I've noticed your badass overflow!
I broke the top half of mine accidentally so I ended up cutting the back part anyway but left the lower half just because of all the gravel roads up here in Michigan. Someone make a clear one or chrome with openings for the adj. Cam gears I'd buy it

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 3:41 pm
by Danteneon
gtxtreme19 wrote:Haha that's the first I've noticed your badass overflow!
Thanks! I am in need of a more sealed container though :(

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 3:43 pm
by occasional demons
They used to sell chrome ones for the 2.2 They were the cheesiest things ever.

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 3:44 pm
by Danteneon
I remember those. They seemed like your typical Mr. Gasket chrome crap.

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 7:19 pm
by randomZERO
+1 for a clear cover. Hey John did you do your own belt? Wanna help me do mine? I will give pats on the back.

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 7:32 pm
by occasional demons
Danteneon wrote:Yay! I didn't have to whore Chtear for a change :D
:D Does that make me teh Pimp? Image

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 10:11 pm
by Danteneon
randomZERO wrote:+1 for a clear cover. Hey John did you do your own belt? Wanna help me do mine? I will give pats on the back.
:rofl: Sorry...I had to do that. I've done everything to this car myself (with Juan's help for some of it of course).

I'll be honest, it's a bitch of a job on a stock car. So much crap in the way :shock:

I can give you a hand, but it probably wouldn't be till next month before I have time :(

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 10:59 pm
by randomZERO
Let me know when you can that would be great. I have been working six day weeks and my dad isn't off the one day I am. I will buy you tacos and or beers. Maybe both

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 9:49 am
by Danteneon
:rofl: I'll PM you with some dates once I know what days I have available. Hit me up if you don't hear from me by the 5th of May

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 12:28 pm
by occasional demons
Better get him before the 5th, he'll be partying with Juan that day. :D