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Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 4:31 pm
by xSEED
still goes up

but would the 180 tstat screw up emissions? i have a smog check due in feb 2011

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 7:13 pm
by BlackRoseRacing
no it won't, the engine will still hit operating temps like it should....

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:22 pm
by esteinmaier
Most PCMs have you out of warmup enrichment by 150-160 degrees. 180 won't be a problem.

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:58 pm
by jrumann59
on a non modded car 180 T-stat may cause your engine to use more gas. I did this few years back and I started getting crappy gas mileage, switched back and the gas mileage improved. I would get a stock t-stat and a coolant power flush.

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 11:30 pm
by xSEED
how crappy would the milage be?

anyone see a big hit on the milage

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:19 pm
by jrumann59
I saw like 2-3 mpg and some fouling on the spark plugs. I would definitely try the flush first with a stock t-stat

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 3:13 pm
by xSEED
yeah definately will

but.........what if even that fails to help?

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 3:25 pm
by jrumann59
then I would check for HG leak. When you get the flush see if there is oil in the Coolant. When you first posted i thought HG problem.

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:29 pm
by xSEED
HG?

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:42 pm
by TheRandom1
Head Gasket.

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 12:01 am
by charger440neon2.0l
I think I would replace the radiator cap before thinking head gasket. After the car is turned off the cap might be leaking down pressure into the coolant reservoir the loss of pressure causes the coolant in the engine to boil creating a ton of heat soak. The most common sign of this is hearing coolant boil in the reservoir with the engine off but this is not always the case. I think you need a radiator cap. The bg cleaner flush is amazing we do that in our shop. the only way to get any more rust and coolant sludge out is removing the core plugs.

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:33 am
by xSEED
the radiator cap was the first thing i changed

no fluid in oil


oy i hope not the hg

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:25 am
by occasional demons
You would be losing coolant if it was the HG. If there are no sounds of boiling at shut down, I really wouldn't worry too much. If it isn't getting hot enough to boil over with the proper psi cap, then it isn't getting hot enough to damage too much. To put it in perspective, 240ºF won't even bake a cake.

You could try flushing the coolant, as the acidity might be high enough to make enough voltage at that temp to throw the gauge off. Also you could add Water Wetter after flushing to help with the heat transfer.

Edit: You could also try putting a mechanical gauge in, to see what it actually is doing. Even if it is just a temporary thing.

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:11 am
by xSEED
it boiled once last year that was after 1 hr drive in 105 temps

plus i do notice that the reserve tank is almost empty after a week or 2

i checked the oil theres no coolant in it

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:00 am
by xSEED
maybe a pressure leak?

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 12:21 pm
by occasional demons
So you are losing coolant.

Any smell of coolant?

If it is leaking slowly, there should be an odor as it steams away. Could be going directly into the combustion chamber, and out the exhaust, but until it gets bad enough, it may not smoke or smell like coolant in the exhaust.

It can also be going out the weep hole in the water pump. Mine was doing this at 100,000ish miles. Wasn't enough to leave a puddle, but you could see where it was seeping when I changed the timing belt, etc. at 112,000.

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 12:32 pm
by xSEED
yeah theres a smell of coolant in the ac system none yet in exhaust



the guy at the shop where im getting the flush done just showed me some coolant leakage in the back of the engine wants $40 for a pressure check....should i allow it?

but it is not near the water pump more toward the driver side nearing the tranny

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 12:38 pm
by TheRandom1
Sounds like a hg then. A pressure test would confirm, I would think.

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 3:21 pm
by xSEED
dang hg service will be a lot!!!!!!!


would i need this
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or just this
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Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 3:36 pm
by occasional demons
I would see if AZ has a pressure tester you could rent. Or for $40, you could prolly buy one.

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 3:49 pm
by xSEED
good idea

gotta go there and dump oil anyway

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:22 pm
by xSEED
funny thing is theres no performance hits at all still runs like a champ normal?

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 12:49 pm
by xSEED
Pressure tested and found the leak was in the thermostat housing

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 12:50 pm
by TheRandom1
Well that's good. Try to replace that and see if the problem goes away?

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 1:07 pm
by xSEED
Yeah they doing that now flushing new gasket new tstat new coolant n housing

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 4:01 pm
by xSEED
ok done well it still heats up a lil bit but during operation gone is the coolant smell.......i think its done