Exhaust advice

SC62391 · Post by **SC62391** » Thu Dec 02, 2010 8:10 pm

I am doing full exhaust on my 2001 R/T instead of getting coils because my mistake fart can is embarrassing and the system is pretty rusty.

I want it to sound nice and deep with no rasp, loud, but not too loud.

I just got the Pacesetter Ceramic Coated Headers off of MP and plan on getting the Thermal R&D rear section. I just wondered how loud it would be if i went catless with a res/glass pack muffler. Or if i went without a resonator and went with a high flow cat. Or if i should just get both.

This is what i was looking at.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/MPE-54955/
http://www.modernperformance.com/vibran ... -1256.html
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-630802/

Any advice is greatly appreciated!

sidepipe87 · Post by **sidepipe87** » Thu Dec 02, 2010 9:21 pm

You fucked up your URL tags royally... you never closed them, then just did one at the end. that's why the message didn't display.

SC62391 wrote:I am doing full exhaust on my 2001 R/T instead of getting coils because my mistake fart can is embarrassing and the system is pretty rusty.

I want it to sound nice and deep with no rasp, loud, but not too loud.

I just got the Pacesetter Ceramic Coated Headers off of MP and plan on getting the Thermal R&D rear section. I just wondered how loud it would be if i went catless with a res/glass pack muffler. Or if i went without a resonator and went with a high flow cat. Or if i should just get both.

This is what i was looking at.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/MPE-54955/
http://www.modernperformance.com/vibran ... -1256.html
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-630802/

Any advice is greatly appreciated!

SC62391 · Post by **SC62391** » Thu Dec 02, 2010 10:16 pm

Sorry about that

Any advice?...anyone?

sidepipe87 · Post by **sidepipe87** » Thu Dec 02, 2010 10:38 pm

Just get the Thermal R&D if you can find one somewhere... they don't make them anymore. I had one on my car and loved it. My 03 atx has 2.5" exhaust with 2 Moroso spiralflow mufflers in the midpipe and a Dynomax camaro dual outlet muffler and it's fairly loud, but not annoying.

My 05 mtx has stock 2.25" exhaust with a Dynomax camaro dual outlet muffler and it's a bit quieter due to smaller piping I guess.

If I could do it over again, I'd stick with the Thermal but it didn't fit my SRT rear bumper. They sound awesome though.

SC62391 · Post by **SC62391** » Thu Dec 02, 2010 11:15 pm

So what did your exhaust look like with the thermal?
It wont be too loud if i run straight to to the muffler?

sidepipe87 · Post by **sidepipe87** » Thu Dec 02, 2010 11:32 pm

With a full exhaust with a cat? hell no. it sounded great.

Looked like this with the Thermal and lip kit

SC62391 · Post by **SC62391** » Thu Dec 02, 2010 11:40 pm

Alright, i found it on ebay and it said it was the exhaust with the part number M504 which is the right one as far as my google search showed.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/THERMAL- ... 45e79f4123

sidepipe87 · Post by **sidepipe87** » Fri Dec 03, 2010 1:10 am

Yeah, that's it.

SC62391 · Post by **SC62391** » Fri Dec 03, 2010 2:02 am

Yeah, i just wanted to make sure it wasn't a picture of it and not the actual part for sale.

Post by **occasional demons** » Fri Dec 03, 2010 7:57 am

$367 shipped.... Glad I bought a Camaro muffler, Trubendz stainless tubing and had an Exhaust shop install it all for about that much.

SC62391 · Post by **SC62391** » Fri Dec 03, 2010 2:12 pm

I asked the guy if the part in the picture was the part for sale and he said it wasn't. I can't find thermal r&d anywhere. Anyone know where to get it? Or have it for sale?

sidepipe87 · Post by **sidepipe87** » Fri Dec 03, 2010 7:39 pm

Bill, I spent WAY more than that on my current setup and it still doesn't sound as good as my exhaust sounded with just the Thermal R&D rear section.

I sold mine, A guy just sold a brand new one on here a while back to Canada. They're no longer in production. And their whole ad is BS then... it says Thermal R&D Neon R/T which is exactly what's shown in the picture.

Here is a pic of mine before I put it on the car... it's upside down obviously

SC62391 · Post by **SC62391** » Fri Dec 03, 2010 9:39 pm

Yeah, i knew they went out of businees and i saw that one that went to Canada like 20 days too late.

Do you know if Howell Automotive actually still has some? Or if they are reliable?

http://howellautomotive.com/index.asp?P ... ProdID=104

sidepipe87 · Post by **sidepipe87** » Sat Dec 04, 2010 1:01 am

I would not trust Howell... too many people have been scammed by Gary.

SC62391 · Post by **SC62391** » Sat Dec 04, 2010 1:18 am

That's what i thought...anyone know where i can get the thermal? I see it on a lot of sites but don't know which ones are legit.

sidepipe87 · Post by **sidepipe87** » Sat Dec 04, 2010 1:30 am

I don't understand what they're selling on ebay if it says its for a neon, the pic is for a neon, but they guy says that's not it??

SC62391 · Post by **SC62391** » Sat Dec 04, 2010 1:32 am

It says Cl system

which is a different system that looks just like my muffler now

http://www.jdmhub.com/image/cache/THE_1 ... 50x350.jpg

sidepipe87 · Post by **sidepipe87** » Sat Dec 04, 2010 12:10 pm

ohh it's the single exit catback exhaust.

Post by **occasional demons** » Sat Dec 04, 2010 2:14 pm

sidepipe87 wrote:I would not trust Howell... too many people have been scammed by Gary.

I think the problem with Howell is more the PCM issues, than their other products. I have bought stuff from them in the past and haven't had any troubles. I just wouldn't buy an AF/X PCM from them.

And I'm too much of a tight ass to spend $300 on any muffler.

For $300 and up, it better bake me some cookies, and make me a sammich.

SC62391 · Post by **SC62391** » Sat Dec 04, 2010 9:54 pm

I emailed him and am waiting for a reply. I'm gonna call Monday and see if i can get a hold of him that way.

In the mean time anyone know of a secret stash of thermal rear sections?

slaw · Post by **slaw** » Sun Dec 05, 2010 2:38 pm

not familiar with the r&d mufflers, but here's my setup, relatively cheap, looks good and sounds great!
stock header, stock cat, all i did was remove the muffler, bolt on the SRT4 rear axle back section, and in the straight section of the exhaust i had a cherrybomb 31" glasspack installed, costed me about 40 for the glasspack and 40 for install if i remember correctly, the rear section from the SRT4 cost me about 125 or so on ebay, and i installed it myself, so for around 200 bucks or so, its quiet when u want it to be, and loud enough for me, no rasp at all.

SC62391 · Post by **SC62391** » Sun Dec 05, 2010 3:19 pm

Yeah i at first i didn't care what i spent. But now i know i will feel like shit if i spen 500 on it. So i think i'm going to go a little cheaper. And yours sounds exactly like what 'm looking for. Do you have any videos of it?

And is yours 3"?

sidepipe87 · Post by **sidepipe87** » Sun Dec 05, 2010 3:26 pm

Trust me... I think it's gonna be too loud for what you want... I had the SRT rear section with 2 Moroso Spiralflow mufflers in the midpipe and it was ungodly loud under load. aka any time you were on the gas.

I'd go with a TruBendz piping kit if you can still get it and mount up either a Dynomax Super Turbo camaro muffler, or a Magnaflow camaro muffler. I have the Super Turbo.

3" piping is WAY too big for a stock neon. I have 2.5" piping and it makes the exhaust louder, but you lose low end torque.

do some searching, there's some good threads. this one has a lot of pics of different setups

viewtopic.php?t=45190

http://trubendz.com/home.asp?producttyp ... ype=detail

http://trubendz.com/home.asp?producttyp ... ype=detail

slaw · Post by **slaw** » Sun Dec 05, 2010 6:45 pm

i have no videos or soundclips, i dont think its too loud when you get on it, but then again i drove for over a year with no glasspack,but still ive heard much louder, all my piping is 2.25 Fyi.

sidepipe87 · Post by **sidepipe87** » Sun Dec 05, 2010 7:06 pm

like I said mine didn't have a glasspack, I had two spiralflows and my car is ATX so it was ungodly loud. I didn't like the sound on Dan's car nor Matt's. Just keep in mind if you go that route and don't use a real muffler... it's gonna be loud.

SC62391 · Post by **SC62391** » Sun Dec 05, 2010 7:22 pm

yeah i cut my muffler off and drove around like that for about 2 weeks. It sounded good until 3k. Then it sounded like raspy ass.

I found this for about the same price
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Magnaflo ... ccessories

which one does everyone use?
1. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Magnaflo ... ccessories

2. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Magnaflo ... ccessories

SC62391 · Post by **SC62391** » Tue Dec 07, 2010 12:45 am

Bump, which one? I'm guessing #1

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