02 SOHC throttle body?

haseebgill12 · Post by **haseebgill12** » Mon May 02, 2011 8:56 am

Hi guys.
I have been looking around for a while and cant seem to find an after market throttle body (which is not out of stock or has been discontinued). Lorenzo throttle body's always seem to be out of stock, to be honest i don't even know if they still produce them. MP discontinued theirs. However i did eventually come across one on Andysautosport.com its made by Gude performance costs $295, has an opening of 57mm and tapers down to 53mm. I just wont to know what you guys think? Is it worth it? (if i bought it, it would be used in conjunction with a turbo) and has anyone had any experience with them?
Thanks in advance!

Post by **racer12306** » Mon May 02, 2011 9:17 am

Sounds like a waste to me.

Keep your eyes open for a used brand name 60mm TB on eBay and the FS sections here and on Neons.org

haseebgill12 · Post by **haseebgill12** » Mon May 02, 2011 9:23 am

racer12306 wrote:Sounds like a waste to me.

Keep your eyes open for a used brand name 60mm TB on eBay and the FS sections here and on Neons.org

Even if i found one in the FS section on here. I doubt they would be willing to ship to the UK

Thanks anyway.

Post by **racer12306** » Mon May 02, 2011 9:27 am

I'm sure there are more people than you would think that would be willing to ship to the UK.

You would have to pay the shipping of course.

haseebgill12 · Post by **haseebgill12** » Mon May 02, 2011 9:36 am

will keep my eyes open

Post by **occasional demons** » Mon May 02, 2011 8:06 pm

haseebgill12 wrote:Hi guys.
However i did eventually come across one on Andysautosport.com its made by Gude performance costs $295, has an opening of 57mm and tapers down to 53mm.

Now that makes no sense, it is essentially one mm bigger than stock, for an azz raping price.
For that $ you could get the 56mm Mustang BBK that Summit Racing sells. Of course you will, need to make an adapter.

haseebgill12 · Post by **haseebgill12** » Tue May 03, 2011 4:21 am

so what would i need to make to mount the tb and will the sensor fit ok? and are you talking about this one? http://www.summitracing.com/parts/BBK-1548/?rtype=10

Post by **occasional demons** » Tue May 03, 2011 10:00 am

Thats the one.

viewtopic.php?t=25866

But you will need a flange made to adapt the TB to your bellows tube. It could also be mounted to the stock air box with a little creativity. If you can get a used 60mm cheaper, I would go that route, to save some $.

If you have an '02 older, there will be no issues. The 56 mm is a safer bet for '03 - '05.

You would need to press the throttle shaft from your neon TB, or a spare to use the throttle cable pulley. You have to drill a hole, or grind the plastic from the end to press it out of the cable pulley. then bolt it onto the Mustang TB like shown in the how to. There is no going back to the neon TB unless you get another one. Once the shaft is pressed out, it is done, unless you can epoxy it back on. The cable pulley is molded to the shaft. There is a spline, and a recess that the plastic flows into to prevent it from coming off. I used an arbor press to remove mine. It takes a lot of force. I suppose if you heated the shaft, it may pull out too.

haseebgill12 · Post by **haseebgill12** » Tue May 03, 2011 3:07 pm

wow really informative. Thanks
I have been looking around and the biggest one after 56mm is 65mm here is the link

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BBK-Powe ... 56439fe1ea

I would imagine that this is overkill. If not then would it just be the same procedure to get this up and running like the 56mm?

Post by **occasional demons** » Tue May 03, 2011 3:14 pm

65 mm is a PITA to drive. Only about 1/4 of the throttle travel is useful for everyday driving. WOT is only good at about 90+ mph/5800 rpm and up.

60 mm TB's will be hard to find from aftermarket suppliers like BBK, etc. You would need to find a good used one (from the vehicles listed in that ebay auction), that someone would ship.

haseebgill12 · Post by **haseebgill12** » Tue May 03, 2011 3:18 pm

hmm, i see. I think the 56 will be ok, as long as it lets my turbo breath (once the build is finished). i will be using a cold air intake (with my current n/a setup) will i have any issues ?

Fuzzyneon · Post by **Fuzzyneon** » Tue May 03, 2011 7:28 pm

haseebgill12 wrote:hmm, i see. I think the 56 will be ok, as long as it lets my turbo breath (once the build is finished). i will be using a cold air intake (with my current n/a setup) will i have any issues ?

56mm will be fine boost or not you dont need crazy big tb's to make power or anything i have a 2.4 stratus swap full bolt ons mopar ecu and i have a stock 52mm i cant see any big power being gained from a 60mm or anything

Post by **occasional demons** » Tue May 03, 2011 9:46 pm

Have you ever run a 60mm TB? Bolt ons like more inlet size. A 60mm would be a much better fit for a 2.4. But until you take the restriction out of the IM inlet, a bigger TB isn't going to make as big of an impact.

Run a 60mm for a while, then go back to the 52mm, then tell me it doesn't make a difference.

Been there done that.

Just taking the step down out of my Jeep's TB improved it more than I figured it would.

haseebgill12 · Post by **haseebgill12** » Wed May 04, 2011 5:44 am

yeah i didnt really consider a 60mm huge. I think they would "compliment" a turbo build. I have been hearing mixed views on the 60mm for a simple bolt on setup though...some say yae...some say nae. The Boomba 70mm for the SRT ..now thats huge. I also read what BBR said on your how to

After running my Mustang TB for over a year with no issues im looking at getting this little mod done to get my TPS in check before a future mod gets installed. For those of you wondering, you can pretty much plug and play the Ford TPS based on the instructions I provided but you will run into one issue...
TPS readings will be 15% at closed throttle and only 68-70% WOT. The problem with this is the fuel maps and spark curves are going to be off. Granted I averaged around 25-28mpg no matter how hard or soft I drive the car, the max potential can not bee seen because of the narrow readings...

will this be the case if i go for the 56mm ?

Post by **occasional demons** » Wed May 04, 2011 8:51 am

I forgot that with the BBK 56mm Ford TB, the neon TPS is a direct fit, No adapter needed.

But you will not find an oem ford 56mm. The one BBS sells is a bored out 49mm V6 TB.

You can see the position in my last pic in the thread linked:

haseebgill12 · Post by **haseebgill12** » Wed May 04, 2011 9:07 am

so if i get the BBK 56mm its basically plug and play except from....?

Post by **occasional demons** » Wed May 04, 2011 9:44 am

haseebgill12 wrote:so if i get the BBK 56mm its basically plug and play except from....?

Mounting it to the bellows tube/air box if you are keeping that. But if going with boost, you will need to fab some mounting brackets, etc. If you use the non SRT IAC, the IAC part of the TB needs a little JB weld to fill in the open areas, so the neon IAC fits better. A gasket will need to be cut out for that. Not a big issue. Just trace around the IAC, and make two holes.

Edit: Or don't even mount the IAC to the tb, if it gives you better mounting options. Do a remote mount IAC, like I did.

haseebgill12 · Post by **haseebgill12** » Wed May 04, 2011 1:55 pm

Oh crap i just bought a spare tb

oh well it might come in usefull some day..

where did you mount the IAC?

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