Need Help ASAP (car torn apart now)

cdewalt1985 · Post by **cdewalt1985** » Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:12 pm

ok guys I am trying to replace my starter before work tomorrow. I have the top bolt out ant the throttlebody and bellow tube off but cant access the lower bolt, If someone can please tell me how to get to it quickly I would be greatful, Like I said its torn apart now and it has pissed me off so figured I would come here before resorting to a BFH

NickKo · Post by **NickKo** » Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:20 pm

DON'T use a BFH.

It will BREAK the plastic intake manifold !!

IF this were my Neon, I would remove the intake manifold, to replace the starter.
Since the intake is so easy to remove and replace, why not ? It will make access to the starter, much easier.

The biggest challenge to doing the intake removal, is removing the lower bracket bolts, down near the starter.
Having a set of speed ratchets, is a HUGE help in doing this job.

If you don't have these already...... Use this as an 'EXCUSE' to buy them.
Think about it this way: The money that you save, by NOT having a mechanic change the starter for you..... can be put forth for more tools.

That's how I roll, anyway....

- Nick

cdewalt1985 · Post by **cdewalt1985** » Sun Jun 10, 2012 5:01 pm

thanks nick but I got it now, just taking a lil break because it hot as hell out. And mine doesnt have plastic intake as its an r/t. Spoke with Justin and also figured out if I drop the lil metal brace under the starter I had just enough room to get into the bolt and get it out. I have the new starter installed now just gotta hook up the TB and CAI and the batt and im done.

cdewalt1985 · Post by **cdewalt1985** » Sun Jun 10, 2012 5:58 pm

yeah just my luck JY gives me a junk starter. Now I gotta do it all over agian.

FAC3L3SS · Post by **FAC3L3SS** » Sun Jun 10, 2012 6:42 pm

At least you get to go get your money back. Starters aren't cheap, obviously, but sometimes it's worth buying some motor components brand new.

A little tip a fellow forum member taught me. . . leave those bracket bolts on the bottom of the IM off lol. They are a pain and IMO don't "do" much. The manifold doesn't buck that much.

NickKo · Post by **NickKo** » Sun Jun 10, 2012 6:47 pm

cdewalt1985 wrote: And mine doesnt have plastic intake as its an r/t.

Duh.... i should have noticed.

It's Uncool, that the junkyard sold you a bum starter.
I sure they will 'warranty' and exchange it - Most of the junkyards around here do, anyway..... BUT like you said, you still have to go through the trouble of removing & replacing it, all over again.

At least things will go smoother the 2nd time around, because you will have gotten plenty of 'practice' from the 1st time.
It's happened to me, more than once..... I could tell you some real 'war stories'.
Like the time I helped a local Neonite install a transmission into his car, and we ended up having to remove it and to re-reinstall it again, a 2nd time......

( don't ask.)

- Nick

cdewalt1985 · Post by **cdewalt1985** » Sun Jun 10, 2012 8:01 pm

it just pisses me off because now its messing with work, fuel cost, and time. Now the car will probably have to sit all week as I usually am not home early enough to get the starter off and into the JY before they close.

Post by **occasional demons** » Sun Jun 10, 2012 10:30 pm

FAC3L3SS wrote:
A little tip a fellow forum member taught me. . . leave those bracket bolts on the bottom of the IM off lol. They are a pain and IMO don't "do" much. The manifold doesn't buck that much.

A couple of members have had Magnum IM's crack at the flange, by not having a bottom brace, as most are installed on non magnum equipped cars, and the brace is tossed. Proper name is "Bending Strut" Meh, it's a damn brace.

So it might be worth while to re install it as it came from Mother Mopar.

NickKo · Post by **NickKo** » Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:34 am

occasional demons wrote:
FAC3L3SS wrote:
A little tip a fellow forum member taught me. . . leave those bracket bolts on the bottom of the IM off lol. They are a pain and IMO don't "do" much. The manifold doesn't buck that much.
A couple of members have had Magnum IM's crack at the flange, by not having a bottom brace, as most are installed on non magnum equipped cars, and the brace is tossed. Proper name is "Bending Strut" Meh, it's a damn brace.

So it might be worth while to re install it as it came from Mother Mopar.

I agree with Bill on this.
Chrysler put the brace there, for a reason.....

- Nick

cdewalt1985 · Post by **cdewalt1985** » Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:04 pm

yes the brace is going to stay, it not to hateful to move out of the way when needed. I am getting ready to go outside and pull this junk starter agian. Then to the JY to get another one. hopefully it wont be another junk one. I may swing by AZ after I get this one and have them test it before I install it, Or hook the jumper cables to it.

cdewalt1985 · Post by **cdewalt1985** » Mon Jun 11, 2012 4:11 pm

ok she is up and running agian, Worst time I have ever had over a damn starter......lol......Oh well its over now and hopefully next time I get a good one the first time..lol

Donkeypuncher · Post by **Donkeypuncher** » Mon Jun 11, 2012 4:28 pm

Rock auto probably has the cheapest new ones at $70, most are twice that price.

cdewalt1985 · Post by **cdewalt1985** » Mon Jun 11, 2012 4:30 pm

yeah thats why I did the JY thing, it was 35 bucks, On a budget and cant afford a new one, just payed 500 for inspection, and have a newborn, and all kinds of other great shit. Im just glad its done and running agian.