Low idle speed

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Low idle speed

Post by SzaKrisz86 » Tue Oct 30, 2018 7:54 am

Hi all, please help!

At first thank you for being a member on the forum. I have a 2002 Chrysler Neon gen 2. - 2.0L SOHC, 41TE – 116k km and same problem:

When the engine warms up and I stop at the red light, sometimes the idle speed drops to ~ 500-600 rpm, but not always. And when the idle is such low, the engine oil pressure indicator light will sometimes light up, but when it returns to normal idle (~ 850-900 rpm), the oil pressure warning light goes off immediately.

In the usual way, the idle speed will increase if:
1) power steering operates,
2) A/C switches on,
3) I switch the ATX to N.

Should I worry about the engine oil pressure, or if the engine oil pump is not working in the optimum range at too low idle speed?

I've read a lot about the low idle speed problem, but I found many different answers:
- „1/8" hole trick” on throttle body plate,
- throttle body clean,
- sensors check and clean,
- engine oil pressure switch replace,
- TCM / PCM Flash...

… Has anyone had a similar experience? Which solution helped you?

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Re: Low idle speed

Post by occasional demons » Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:38 am

I have had my 2.0 idle as low as 400 rpm, without the oil light coming on.

The cheapest thing, other than putting a small hole in the throttle plate to try, would be to replace the oil pressure switch, as they are known to have issues.

If it is the oil pressure switch going bad, the hole in the throttle plate will only be a temporary fix to the oil light.

IIRC, the switch will make contact at ~4 psi.


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Re: Low idle speed

Post by SzaKrisz86 » Wed Oct 31, 2018 4:06 am

Thanks for the answer, at first I'll replace the oil pressure sensor, but I can't find a solution for the low idle speed.
Yesterday, I cleaned the throttle body, but the problem wasn't solved. (The throttle body plate seemed to be made of steel, not plastic, so it wouldn't be easy to drill.)
(I noticed that the engine oil pressure sensor light only lit when the idle speed drops to ~ 500 rpm. As soon as I move the steering wheel, I turn on the A/C, or I move the gear to N, the light goes off always.)

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Re: Low idle speed

Post by occasional demons » Wed Oct 31, 2018 8:12 am

If the throttle body is black plastic, the throttle plate should also be plastic, unless someone installed a 1st gen throttle plate into it.

If the throttle body is aluminum, then it is either an aftermarket, or another make/model/year someone installed on your car.
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Olha Koba, a psychologist in Kyiv, said that “anger and hate in this situation is a normal reaction and important to validate.” But it is important to channel it into something useful, she said, such as making incendiary bombs out of empty bottles.
2000 Neon MTX swap with '02 R/T PCM
1999 neon coupe 2.4 swap
2021 Forester

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