automatic mod
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AlexBSXT03
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automatic mod
so i was lookin into the "free" automatic trans mod where u cut the wire by the TCM that retards the timin so it shifts faster. and i was reading the threads from both here and stratusfere but all the links in the threads were either not workin or didnt help me one bit. me and my friend already opened the hood, but didnt actually want to cut any wire in fear of cuttin the wrong one, so if anyone with an automatic has done this some info on how to do this, using the switch or not, could give me post that would help and even some pictures would be helpful. i am doing this mod because i dont have enough cash to swap in a manual (which i would love to do) so please no posts sayin to do the swap or that this mod wont work because i believe it will without being harmful. thanks
This is a shot in the dark, but here is the ATX connector pin out for the PCM...

POWERTRAIN CONTROL MODULE C4 (EATX NGC) - GREEN 38 WAY CAV.....CIRCUIT............FUNCTION
1.........T60 18BR..........OVERDRIVE SOLENOID CONTROL
2.........T59 18PK/BK.....UNDERDRIVE SOLENOID CONTROL
3 - -
4 - -
5 - -
6.........T19 18WT.........2-4 SOLENOID CONTROL
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8 - -
9 - -
10.......T20 18LB..........LOW/REVERSE SOLENOID CONTROL
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12.......Z13 16BK/RD....GROUND
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14.......Z13 16BK/RD....GROUND
15.......T1 20LG/BK.......TRS T1 SENSE
16.......T3 20VT.............TRS T3 SENSE
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18.......T15 20LG...........TRANSMISSION CONTROL RELAY CONTROL
19.......T16 16RD...........TRANSMISSION CONTROL RELAY OUTPUT
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21 - -
22.......T9 18OR/BK.......OVERDRIVE PRESSURE SWITCH SENSE
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24 - -
25 - -
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27.......T41 20BK/WT.....TRS T41 SENSE
28.......T16 16RD...........TRANSMISSION CONTROL RELAY OUTPUT
29.......T50 18DG...........LOW/REVERSE PRESSURE SWITCH SENSE
30.......T47 18YL/BK......2-4 PRESSURE SWITCH SENSE
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32.......T14 20LG/WT....OUTPUT SPEED SENSOR SIGNAL
33.......T52 20RD/BK.....INPUT SPEED SENSOR SIGNAL
34.......T13 20DB/BK.....SPEED SENSOR GROUND
35.......T54 20VT/PK......TRANSMISSION TEMPERATURE SENSOR SIGNAL
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37.......T42 20VT/WT.....TRS T42 SENSE
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As far as what wire to cut....I have no idea.

POWERTRAIN CONTROL MODULE C4 (EATX NGC) - GREEN 38 WAY CAV.....CIRCUIT............FUNCTION
1.........T60 18BR..........OVERDRIVE SOLENOID CONTROL
2.........T59 18PK/BK.....UNDERDRIVE SOLENOID CONTROL
3 - -
4 - -
5 - -
6.........T19 18WT.........2-4 SOLENOID CONTROL
7 - -
8 - -
9 - -
10.......T20 18LB..........LOW/REVERSE SOLENOID CONTROL
11 - -
12.......Z13 16BK/RD....GROUND
13 - -
14.......Z13 16BK/RD....GROUND
15.......T1 20LG/BK.......TRS T1 SENSE
16.......T3 20VT.............TRS T3 SENSE
17 - -
18.......T15 20LG...........TRANSMISSION CONTROL RELAY CONTROL
19.......T16 16RD...........TRANSMISSION CONTROL RELAY OUTPUT
20 - -
21 - -
22.......T9 18OR/BK.......OVERDRIVE PRESSURE SWITCH SENSE
23 - -
24 - -
25 - -
26 - -
27.......T41 20BK/WT.....TRS T41 SENSE
28.......T16 16RD...........TRANSMISSION CONTROL RELAY OUTPUT
29.......T50 18DG...........LOW/REVERSE PRESSURE SWITCH SENSE
30.......T47 18YL/BK......2-4 PRESSURE SWITCH SENSE
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32.......T14 20LG/WT....OUTPUT SPEED SENSOR SIGNAL
33.......T52 20RD/BK.....INPUT SPEED SENSOR SIGNAL
34.......T13 20DB/BK.....SPEED SENSOR GROUND
35.......T54 20VT/PK......TRANSMISSION TEMPERATURE SENSOR SIGNAL
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37.......T42 20VT/WT.....TRS T42 SENSE
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As far as what wire to cut....I have no idea.
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Could be the reason you won't find that yellow/brown wire.t vago wrote:This mod won't work with an NGC. You have to have the traditional PCM/TCM setup, because the wire in question basically carries a torque request sense signal from the TCM to the PCM, asking the PCM to reduce power momentarily while the TCM shifts a gear. The NGC internalizes this signal,
BTW, I was one of the guys who originally thought up this mod on 2GSS.org, and it travelled to Stratusphere from there. It does provide a noticeable improvement in shift, but I would not describe it as earthshattering or anything.
And this would likely throw a CEL...
esteinmaier wrote:Yes. Wire the VSS signal wire to a switch, and when the circuit is opened, PCM doesn't know the vehicle speed, therefore can't govern it.
Bill
2000 Neon MTX swap with '02 R/T PCM
1999 neon coupe 2.4 swap
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2000 Neon MTX swap with '02 R/T PCM
1999 neon coupe 2.4 swap