Has anyone ever ran a 5 spd PT Cruiser shifter
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Has anyone ever ran a 5 spd PT Cruiser shifter
I am curious if anyone here has done it. The shaft below the fulcrum is about an inch longer. It seems to me like a better option than an eBay short throw for someone who does not feel like grabbing a maddog just yet.
Thoughts, experience, ideas?
Criticism, however can be left at the door. [/list]
Thoughts, experience, ideas?
Criticism, however can be left at the door. [/list]
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I am fairly certain you have to use the spacer that's between the base and the shifter to use the pt cruiser shifter.
http://www.robertsmedia.net/underconsole.jpg
It will probably require longer bolts/studs.
I've seen it posted as a budget short throw shifter over on neons.org, there is probably more info available there.
http://www.robertsmedia.net/underconsole.jpg
It will probably require longer bolts/studs.
I've seen it posted as a budget short throw shifter over on neons.org, there is probably more info available there.
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viewtopic.php?t=55884GroceryGetter wrote:Explain
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My one concern, is the angle the cable is operating at. It should be fine, if you bend the area around the hole for the shift cable mount. But with the longer rod pushing it down, it would prolly wear and bind eventually.
Shouldn't have cut the top part shorter. You could have put a RatFink head on there for a shift knob.
Shouldn't have cut the top part shorter. You could have put a RatFink head on there for a shift knob.
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Adjusted crossover.
Still as cheap and hobo as ever, I stuffed a few plastic dart tips in the bushing until I drop a $20 on boogers soon.
You forget how horrible the factory bushings are until you replace or 'modify' them. Even my ghetto 'fix' makes it feel like a direct linkage system compared to the mushy engagement of stock.
Time to pick my Boogers and put them on my car.
If I was running my pt I would be all about the rat rod look, but a short stick works just fine in my Neon.
Still as cheap and hobo as ever, I stuffed a few plastic dart tips in the bushing until I drop a $20 on boogers soon.
You forget how horrible the factory bushings are until you replace or 'modify' them. Even my ghetto 'fix' makes it feel like a direct linkage system compared to the mushy engagement of stock.
Time to pick my Boogers and put them on my car.
If I was running my pt I would be all about the rat rod look, but a short stick works just fine in my Neon.
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I wasn't really serious about leaving it long. You would prolly have bruises on your knuckles from the HVAC bezel.
But about the angle on the cable: You could also take a round file, and elongate the hole to lower it so it is level with the pivot arm. Prolly easier/simpler than trying to bend it. It would still clip in place, as long as you keep it the same width. It's not like it is a high stress item. You will damage something else, long before it pulls through.
But about the angle on the cable: You could also take a round file, and elongate the hole to lower it so it is level with the pivot arm. Prolly easier/simpler than trying to bend it. It would still clip in place, as long as you keep it the same width. It's not like it is a high stress item. You will damage something else, long before it pulls through.
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It does when you use the spacer and a first gen shifter base. They've used the pt cruiser shifter and mopar srt4 short shifters that way. They swap the crossover levers to get it to work.GroceryGetter wrote:No spacer needed. Those pictures are from my car. It is installed and chopped. Made a big difference. It will not fit a 1gn, as I have tried.
I will post a picture of a stock one installed so you can see.
I was posting to see if anyone here had done it yet.
Glad it works without the spacer for you, it looks really close.
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You are thinking in the right direction, because after a few days I have really noticed the binding of the shifter. It was not so noticeable at first because I was driving it easy. Today I decided to give it a good launch to test out the new prothane motor mount inserts. Second gear was a horrendous partial fail, as it ground into place because the shifter did not slide into place like it should.occasional demons wrote:I wasn't really serious about leaving it long. You would prolly have bruises on your knuckles from the HVAC bezel.
But about the angle on the cable: You could also take a round file, and elongate the hole to lower it so it is level with the pivot arm. Prolly easier/simpler than trying to bend it. It would still clip in place, as long as you keep it the same width. It's not like it is a high stress item. You will damage something else, long before it pulls through.
Off came the console and on came a light bulb...why tear up the base or bend anything when I can just use a few washers under the base. Basically the same idea that Hurst uses to lift the base up for their shifter.
3 washers under the passenger side and one for the other 3 corners.
The alignment is much better. Don't forget the simple shim.
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I wonder if the longer crossover arm from a PT shifter would fit as well. Then you'd have a true short throw.
Nice work. I always prefer the stock look. The short throw that I made for my car has the stock boot with a leather ACR knob on it. Noooooobodyyyyyy knowwwwwsssss...
Nice work. I always prefer the stock look. The short throw that I made for my car has the stock boot with a leather ACR knob on it. Noooooobodyyyyyy knowwwwwsssss...
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I am going to pick up the rest of the PT set up when I get a chance, including the spacer. I showed it could be done without, but for longevity I will grab the other pieces.
The factory knob has a good feel to it, so why swap it for something that will burn my hand? Ha ha .....of course one if those leather acr/rt knobs would be nice. I have thought about swapping the boot out for something a little less rubber.
The factory knob has a good feel to it, so why swap it for something that will burn my hand? Ha ha .....of course one if those leather acr/rt knobs would be nice. I have thought about swapping the boot out for something a little less rubber.
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I totally agree. Warms up quick in winter, cools down fast in summer.GroceryGetter wrote:The factory knob has a good feel to it, so why swap it for something that will burn my hand?
I don't mind the stock boot so much. I've seen some split at the fake "seam" in them, but mine's fine after 140k miles and New England's erratic climates.
BlackRoseRacing is running the whole Hurst short throw setup for a PT in his R/T. It's BAD ASS. I personally like the extra height, although I don't think he can put a CD in with the car in 3rd, haha.
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If you can get the Hurst bottom pcs, do so, as it will allow you to run the Hurst rod. You will lose some shortness of your cut-rod setup, though, but gain the rod stops.
Personally, I would re-asemble the PT shifter with your cut rod, using the spacer, x-over arm, and Hurst aluminum housing (w/the rod stops). That will be about a 35% overall throw redux.
FYI, the n/a PT shifter is the same as a Mopar STS, EXCEPT that the rod is 3.375" longer on the PT, and is angled slightly away from the driver.
Personally, I would re-asemble the PT shifter with your cut rod, using the spacer, x-over arm, and Hurst aluminum housing (w/the rod stops). That will be about a 35% overall throw redux.
FYI, the n/a PT shifter is the same as a Mopar STS, EXCEPT that the rod is 3.375" longer on the PT, and is angled slightly away from the driver.
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