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Need a clutch, any ideas?

Post by titansxt » Sat Sep 08, 2012 10:14 pm

I need a clutch for my trans swap. Suggestions?
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Post by esteinmaier » Sun Sep 09, 2012 12:12 am

PT up to 300. Then lots of options past that. What power range? Drag duty?
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Post by bobneon2k » Tue Oct 02, 2012 1:01 am

I just installed a Banhoff stage 1 (rated up to 244 hp) they're well reviewed and this one is awesome. the price can't be beat ($175 for the stage 1) according to their page they offer them up to stage 7 and list the hp ratings of each stage. They have an ebay store and offer free shipping. unless something goes drastically wrong during the 500 mile break in period I will buy their clutch products again without a second thought.
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Post by loroku@aol.com » Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:58 am

i have a fx400 for sale it will hold alot of tq and its all ready broke in just needs to be bolted into a car :rockon:
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Post by sidepipe87 » Wed Oct 03, 2012 12:34 pm

pretty sure this clutch is going in an SRT-4, no?
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Post by ThatKevin » Wed Oct 03, 2012 1:34 pm

esteinmaier wrote:PT up to 300. Then lots of options past that. What power range? Drag duty?
REALLY?? This might be an option for me then...
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Post by sidepipe87 » Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:31 pm

^the stratus 2.7 clutch would be an option too
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Post by ragek23 » Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:34 am

wow, wish I saw this thread about the bahnof 20mins ago. I just bought a stage 1 clutchmasters off of modernperformance for $400+.

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Post by ragek23 » Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:58 pm

I was going to go with the spec stage 2 clutch but I saw some nightmares on EVOs and some SRTs that have used them where they shread the input driveshaft.

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Post by titansxt » Sat Dec 15, 2012 3:24 pm

I read all the ideas form you guys but is this Sachs no longer a good idea?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SACHS-RACING-MO ... 35&vxp=mtr
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Post by loroku@aol.com » Sat Dec 15, 2012 3:50 pm

i suggest for the street a spec stg3+ which has a full disc just make sure you break it in correctly
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Post by gilly02le » Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:05 pm

the sachs non-modular is what im running, no complaints so far. Cheapest i could find and it seemed like the best option for me since i had to learn to drive the car after swapping in the mtx trans. Stratus 2.7 mtx clutch is also highly rated for our cars, but i think they are hard to come by now.
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Post by fargo59 » Mon Dec 31, 2012 8:10 pm

occasional demons wrote:viewtopic.php?t=59398
hmm, since my clutch started slipping today I was pricing out the pt clutch, but now I'll have to check out the stratus clutch tomorrow or Wednesday. And the throw out bearing of course

thanks for the info :)

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Post by NickKo » Tue Jan 01, 2013 6:05 pm

gilly02le wrote:the sachs non-modular is what im running, no complaints so far. Cheapest i could find and it seemed like the best option for me since i had to learn to drive the car after swapping in the mtx trans. Stratus 2.7 mtx clutch is also highly rated for our cars, but i think they are hard to come by now.
Good to hear of your success with the Stratus clutch !! :) 8) :thumbup:

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How does the pedal effort with the Stratus clutch feel, compared to the PT Clutch, or the stock Neon clutch ??



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Post by GroceryGetter » Sun Mar 10, 2013 12:13 am

Just dropped a Stratus 2.7 clutch in my car today. Paid $180 on parts geek.com
It is not on there normal listings and is not under the standard Sachs part number.
It grabs almost 2" from the floor, so it has taken some getting used to. I will be putting it through its paces soon enough.
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Post by NickKo » Sun Mar 10, 2013 8:16 pm

GroceryGetter wrote:Just dropped a Stratus 2.7 clutch in my car today. Paid $180 on parts geek.com
It is not on there normal listings and is not under the standard Sachs part number.
It grabs almost 2" from the floor, so it has taken some getting used to. I will be putting it through its paces soon enough.
Not a bad find for the price !
What is their part number ??

Please give us a review, after you put it 'through its paces'. :thumbup:


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Post by GroceryGetter » Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:55 am

http://www.partsgeek.com/424c5z3-dodge- ... h-kit.html

I had it air shipped to get it in time.
Huge thanks to Xavier at ZHP in Galveston Texas for swapping it out in 3 hours! I helped where I could but I think I was in the way.
Then we lined out the SRT intercooler and installed it in another few hours and I was on my way back to Louisiana.

I have about 250 miles on the clutch so far, 150 without boost and another 100 at 4psi because I did not set the preload correctly on my stage2 wastegate when I hooked it back up. Rectified that.

This Sunday will be the first real test, first autox event of the year.
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Post by NickKo » Sat Mar 16, 2013 3:07 pm

GroceryGetter wrote:http://www.partsgeek.com/424c5z3-dodge- ... h-kit.html

I had it air shipped to get it in time.
Huge thanks to Xavier at ZHP in Galveston Texas for swapping it out in 3 hours! I helped where I could but I think I was in the way.
Then we lined out the SRT intercooler and installed it in another few hours and I was on my way back to Louisiana.

I have about 250 miles on the clutch so far, 150 without boost and another 100 at 4psi because I did not set the preload correctly on my stage2 wastegate when I hooked it back up. Rectified that.

This Sunday will be the first real test, first autox event of the year.
Excellent..... Thanks for the update !! :thumbup:


Do come back and let us know, how the clutch performs. 8)



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Post by GroceryGetter » Fri Mar 22, 2013 4:09 am

The Stratus clutch stood up just fine at the autox. I was running Hoosier R6 tires up front, so the power was getting to the ground. The clutch stood up to it very well. I am very happy with it's performance.

The initial surprise of the clutch engaging so quickly has passed and I hardly notice it any more.

Not one to let any of my parts get off early, I gave it a few harsh launches to see if it would be hard to slip for just the proper amount of wheelspin. As I had not tried to launch the car like this since I have gone turbo it took a few tries to keep from just roasting the tires. It performed flawlessly......my LCA bushings however spoke up very quickly when I did get it right and I had to let off it before I tore an axle up.

A very worthwhile upgrade.
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Post by NickKo » Sat Mar 30, 2013 10:21 am

GroceryGetter wrote:The Stratus clutch stood up just fine at the autox. I was running Hoosier R6 tires up front, so the power was getting to the ground. The clutch stood up to it very well. I am very happy with it's performance.

The initial surprise of the clutch engaging so quickly has passed and I hardly notice it any more.

Not one to let any of my parts get off early, I gave it a few harsh launches to see if it would be hard to slip for just the proper amount of wheelspin. As I had not tried to launch the car like this since I have gone turbo it took a few tries to keep from just roasting the tires. It performed flawlessly......my LCA bushings however spoke up very quickly when I did get it right and I had to let off it before I tore an axle up.

A very worthwhile upgrade.
Good to know. :) Thanks for the update !! :thumbup:


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Post by fcaruso91 » Sun Mar 31, 2013 12:05 pm

how much power are you making?

i'm just trying to see if it will be the right clutch for my set up and i really don't want to drop$ 300-400 on a clutchmaster and i take it that your running it on a first gen.

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Post by GroceryGetter » Wed Apr 03, 2013 5:42 am

No, 2004 SXT with an SRT turbo at 8psi. Probably 180ft/lbs or so.
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Post by bobneon2k » Tue Aug 06, 2013 3:40 pm

bobneon2k wrote:I just installed a Banhoff stage 1 (rated up to 244 hp) they're well reviewed and this one is awesome. the price can't be beat ($175 for the stage 1) according to their page they offer them up to stage 7 and list the hp ratings of each stage. They have an ebay store and offer free shipping. unless something goes drastically wrong during the 500 mile break in period I will buy their clutch products again without a second thought.
Please forget I ever said this! This clutch started slipping and causing clutch chatter after 10000 miles. If you're using them for racing and are replacing them every few races they would be okay but for a daily driver they suck. They wear out fast.
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Post by NickKo » Sun Aug 11, 2013 9:43 am

bobneon2k wrote:
bobneon2k wrote:I just installed a Banhoff stage 1 (rated up to 244 hp) they're well reviewed and this one is awesome. the price can't be beat ($175 for the stage 1) according to their page they offer them up to stage 7 and list the hp ratings of each stage. They have an ebay store and offer free shipping. unless something goes drastically wrong during the 500 mile break in period I will buy their clutch products again without a second thought.
Please forget I ever said this! This clutch started slipping and causing clutch chatter after 10000 miles. If you're using them for racing and are replacing them every few races they would be okay but for a daily driver they suck. They wear out fast.
Ouch, that sucks. :(

Question - Can you rule out contamination, from the rear main seal ?
Was that replaced along with the clutch, when you installed the Banhoff ??


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Post by occasional demons » Sun Aug 11, 2013 1:26 pm

The Banhoff stage 1 I bought feels like mushy butter compared to the Sachs 2.7 Stratus clutch, that I think I actually paid literally a couple dollars more for.

I don't think the Banhoff would live too long behind a 2.4.

It felt great with the 3.94 gears in a 1gn, but not so much with the 3.55's in a 2gn. A bit of sarcasm thrown in - you are wondering if it actually engaged. :lol:
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Post by GroceryGetter » Fri Aug 23, 2013 3:49 am

5 months on my Stratus clutch. My latest dyno simulation run said I was putting down 230lb/ft.
Works as great as the first day I installed it.
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Post by bobneon2k » Fri Aug 23, 2013 9:06 pm

NickKo wrote:
bobneon2k wrote:
bobneon2k wrote:I just installed a Banhoff stage 1 (rated up to 244 hp) they're well reviewed and this one is awesome. the price can't be beat ($175 for the stage 1) according to their page they offer them up to stage 7 and list the hp ratings of each stage. They have an ebay store and offer free shipping. unless something goes drastically wrong during the 500 mile break in period I will buy their clutch products again without a second thought.
Please forget I ever said this! This clutch started slipping and causing clutch chatter after 10000 miles. If you're using them for racing and are replacing them every few races they would be okay but for a daily driver they suck. They wear out fast.
Ouch, that sucks. :(

Question - Can you rule out contamination, from the rear main seal ?
Was that replaced along with the clutch, when you installed the Banhoff ??


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Only the clutch and the release bearing were replaced. I did not do the work. I went to a highly recommended local guy for a rattling noise problem and had him do that at the same time. I also had him put in my new sachs stock clutch this time around. I assume he did the job right. a friend who was his partner a few years back says he does. (the rattling ended up being good old fashioned gear rattle - nothing to do but deal with it btw.) The sachs should be good for at least 2 years with the way I put on miles. (200-300 miles weekly city driving) if not then I'm going to someone else next time and I may try a 2.7 clutch.
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Post by NickKo » Sun Aug 25, 2013 11:04 am

bobneon2k wrote:
NickKo wrote:
Question - Can you rule out contamination, from the rear main seal ?
Was that replaced along with the clutch, when you installed the Banhoff ??


- Nick
Only the clutch and the release bearing were replaced. I did not do the work. I went to a highly recommended local guy for a rattling noise problem and had him do that at the same time. I also had him put in my new sachs stock clutch this time around. I assume he did the job right. a friend who was his partner a few years back says he does. (the rattling ended up being good old fashioned gear rattle - nothing to do but deal with it btw.) The sachs should be good for at least 2 years with the way I put on miles. (200-300 miles weekly city driving) if not then I'm going to someone else next time and I may try a 2.7 clutch.
DEFINITELY have them replace the rear mail seal, too - Do this whether it needs it, or not, when replacing a clutch !! :!:
They are easy and cheap - Once the trans is out of the way while doing the clutch, it makes sense to change it.

I always specify the 'high-mileage' variety of rear main seal.


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