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Need a clutch, any ideas?

Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 10:14 pm
by titansxt
I need a clutch for my trans swap. Suggestions?

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 12:12 am
by esteinmaier
PT up to 300. Then lots of options past that. What power range? Drag duty?

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 1:14 pm
by occasional demons

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 1:01 am
by bobneon2k
I just installed a Banhoff stage 1 (rated up to 244 hp) they're well reviewed and this one is awesome. the price can't be beat ($175 for the stage 1) according to their page they offer them up to stage 7 and list the hp ratings of each stage. They have an ebay store and offer free shipping. unless something goes drastically wrong during the 500 mile break in period I will buy their clutch products again without a second thought.

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:58 am
by loroku@aol.com
i have a fx400 for sale it will hold alot of tq and its all ready broke in just needs to be bolted into a car :rockon:

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 12:34 pm
by sidepipe87
pretty sure this clutch is going in an SRT-4, no?

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 1:34 pm
by ThatKevin
esteinmaier wrote:PT up to 300. Then lots of options past that. What power range? Drag duty?
REALLY?? This might be an option for me then...

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:31 pm
by sidepipe87
^the stratus 2.7 clutch would be an option too

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:34 am
by ragek23
wow, wish I saw this thread about the bahnof 20mins ago. I just bought a stage 1 clutchmasters off of modernperformance for $400+.

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 10:42 am
by NGCnoproblem
^damn...

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:58 pm
by ragek23
I was going to go with the spec stage 2 clutch but I saw some nightmares on EVOs and some SRTs that have used them where they shread the input driveshaft.

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 3:24 pm
by titansxt
I read all the ideas form you guys but is this Sachs no longer a good idea?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SACHS-RACING-MO ... 35&vxp=mtr

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 3:50 pm
by loroku@aol.com
i suggest for the street a spec stg3+ which has a full disc just make sure you break it in correctly

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:05 pm
by gilly02le
the sachs non-modular is what im running, no complaints so far. Cheapest i could find and it seemed like the best option for me since i had to learn to drive the car after swapping in the mtx trans. Stratus 2.7 mtx clutch is also highly rated for our cars, but i think they are hard to come by now.

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 8:10 pm
by fargo59
occasional demons wrote:viewtopic.php?t=59398
hmm, since my clutch started slipping today I was pricing out the pt clutch, but now I'll have to check out the stratus clutch tomorrow or Wednesday. And the throw out bearing of course

thanks for the info :)

Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 6:05 pm
by NickKo
gilly02le wrote:the sachs non-modular is what im running, no complaints so far. Cheapest i could find and it seemed like the best option for me since i had to learn to drive the car after swapping in the mtx trans. Stratus 2.7 mtx clutch is also highly rated for our cars, but i think they are hard to come by now.
Good to hear of your success with the Stratus clutch !! :) 8) :thumbup:

QUESTION:
How does the pedal effort with the Stratus clutch feel, compared to the PT Clutch, or the stock Neon clutch ??



- Nick

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 12:13 am
by GroceryGetter
Just dropped a Stratus 2.7 clutch in my car today. Paid $180 on parts geek.com
It is not on there normal listings and is not under the standard Sachs part number.
It grabs almost 2" from the floor, so it has taken some getting used to. I will be putting it through its paces soon enough.

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 8:16 pm
by NickKo
GroceryGetter wrote:Just dropped a Stratus 2.7 clutch in my car today. Paid $180 on parts geek.com
It is not on there normal listings and is not under the standard Sachs part number.
It grabs almost 2" from the floor, so it has taken some getting used to. I will be putting it through its paces soon enough.
Not a bad find for the price !
What is their part number ??

Please give us a review, after you put it 'through its paces'. :thumbup:


- Nick

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:55 am
by GroceryGetter
http://www.partsgeek.com/424c5z3-dodge- ... h-kit.html

I had it air shipped to get it in time.
Huge thanks to Xavier at ZHP in Galveston Texas for swapping it out in 3 hours! I helped where I could but I think I was in the way.
Then we lined out the SRT intercooler and installed it in another few hours and I was on my way back to Louisiana.

I have about 250 miles on the clutch so far, 150 without boost and another 100 at 4psi because I did not set the preload correctly on my stage2 wastegate when I hooked it back up. Rectified that.

This Sunday will be the first real test, first autox event of the year.

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 3:07 pm
by NickKo
GroceryGetter wrote:http://www.partsgeek.com/424c5z3-dodge- ... h-kit.html

I had it air shipped to get it in time.
Huge thanks to Xavier at ZHP in Galveston Texas for swapping it out in 3 hours! I helped where I could but I think I was in the way.
Then we lined out the SRT intercooler and installed it in another few hours and I was on my way back to Louisiana.

I have about 250 miles on the clutch so far, 150 without boost and another 100 at 4psi because I did not set the preload correctly on my stage2 wastegate when I hooked it back up. Rectified that.

This Sunday will be the first real test, first autox event of the year.
Excellent..... Thanks for the update !! :thumbup:


Do come back and let us know, how the clutch performs. 8)



- Nick

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 4:09 am
by GroceryGetter
The Stratus clutch stood up just fine at the autox. I was running Hoosier R6 tires up front, so the power was getting to the ground. The clutch stood up to it very well. I am very happy with it's performance.

The initial surprise of the clutch engaging so quickly has passed and I hardly notice it any more.

Not one to let any of my parts get off early, I gave it a few harsh launches to see if it would be hard to slip for just the proper amount of wheelspin. As I had not tried to launch the car like this since I have gone turbo it took a few tries to keep from just roasting the tires. It performed flawlessly......my LCA bushings however spoke up very quickly when I did get it right and I had to let off it before I tore an axle up.

A very worthwhile upgrade.

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 10:21 am
by NickKo
GroceryGetter wrote:The Stratus clutch stood up just fine at the autox. I was running Hoosier R6 tires up front, so the power was getting to the ground. The clutch stood up to it very well. I am very happy with it's performance.

The initial surprise of the clutch engaging so quickly has passed and I hardly notice it any more.

Not one to let any of my parts get off early, I gave it a few harsh launches to see if it would be hard to slip for just the proper amount of wheelspin. As I had not tried to launch the car like this since I have gone turbo it took a few tries to keep from just roasting the tires. It performed flawlessly......my LCA bushings however spoke up very quickly when I did get it right and I had to let off it before I tore an axle up.

A very worthwhile upgrade.
Good to know. :) Thanks for the update !! :thumbup:


- Nick

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 12:05 pm
by fcaruso91
how much power are you making?

i'm just trying to see if it will be the right clutch for my set up and i really don't want to drop$ 300-400 on a clutchmaster and i take it that your running it on a first gen.

- Frank

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 5:42 am
by GroceryGetter
No, 2004 SXT with an SRT turbo at 8psi. Probably 180ft/lbs or so.

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 3:40 pm
by bobneon2k
bobneon2k wrote:I just installed a Banhoff stage 1 (rated up to 244 hp) they're well reviewed and this one is awesome. the price can't be beat ($175 for the stage 1) according to their page they offer them up to stage 7 and list the hp ratings of each stage. They have an ebay store and offer free shipping. unless something goes drastically wrong during the 500 mile break in period I will buy their clutch products again without a second thought.
Please forget I ever said this! This clutch started slipping and causing clutch chatter after 10000 miles. If you're using them for racing and are replacing them every few races they would be okay but for a daily driver they suck. They wear out fast.

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 9:43 am
by NickKo
bobneon2k wrote:
bobneon2k wrote:I just installed a Banhoff stage 1 (rated up to 244 hp) they're well reviewed and this one is awesome. the price can't be beat ($175 for the stage 1) according to their page they offer them up to stage 7 and list the hp ratings of each stage. They have an ebay store and offer free shipping. unless something goes drastically wrong during the 500 mile break in period I will buy their clutch products again without a second thought.
Please forget I ever said this! This clutch started slipping and causing clutch chatter after 10000 miles. If you're using them for racing and are replacing them every few races they would be okay but for a daily driver they suck. They wear out fast.
Ouch, that sucks. :(

Question - Can you rule out contamination, from the rear main seal ?
Was that replaced along with the clutch, when you installed the Banhoff ??


- Nick

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 1:26 pm
by occasional demons
The Banhoff stage 1 I bought feels like mushy butter compared to the Sachs 2.7 Stratus clutch, that I think I actually paid literally a couple dollars more for.

I don't think the Banhoff would live too long behind a 2.4.

It felt great with the 3.94 gears in a 1gn, but not so much with the 3.55's in a 2gn. A bit of sarcasm thrown in - you are wondering if it actually engaged. :lol:

Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 3:49 am
by GroceryGetter
5 months on my Stratus clutch. My latest dyno simulation run said I was putting down 230lb/ft.
Works as great as the first day I installed it.

Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 9:06 pm
by bobneon2k
NickKo wrote:
bobneon2k wrote:
bobneon2k wrote:I just installed a Banhoff stage 1 (rated up to 244 hp) they're well reviewed and this one is awesome. the price can't be beat ($175 for the stage 1) according to their page they offer them up to stage 7 and list the hp ratings of each stage. They have an ebay store and offer free shipping. unless something goes drastically wrong during the 500 mile break in period I will buy their clutch products again without a second thought.
Please forget I ever said this! This clutch started slipping and causing clutch chatter after 10000 miles. If you're using them for racing and are replacing them every few races they would be okay but for a daily driver they suck. They wear out fast.
Ouch, that sucks. :(

Question - Can you rule out contamination, from the rear main seal ?
Was that replaced along with the clutch, when you installed the Banhoff ??


- Nick
Only the clutch and the release bearing were replaced. I did not do the work. I went to a highly recommended local guy for a rattling noise problem and had him do that at the same time. I also had him put in my new sachs stock clutch this time around. I assume he did the job right. a friend who was his partner a few years back says he does. (the rattling ended up being good old fashioned gear rattle - nothing to do but deal with it btw.) The sachs should be good for at least 2 years with the way I put on miles. (200-300 miles weekly city driving) if not then I'm going to someone else next time and I may try a 2.7 clutch.

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 11:04 am
by NickKo
bobneon2k wrote:
NickKo wrote:
Question - Can you rule out contamination, from the rear main seal ?
Was that replaced along with the clutch, when you installed the Banhoff ??


- Nick
Only the clutch and the release bearing were replaced. I did not do the work. I went to a highly recommended local guy for a rattling noise problem and had him do that at the same time. I also had him put in my new sachs stock clutch this time around. I assume he did the job right. a friend who was his partner a few years back says he does. (the rattling ended up being good old fashioned gear rattle - nothing to do but deal with it btw.) The sachs should be good for at least 2 years with the way I put on miles. (200-300 miles weekly city driving) if not then I'm going to someone else next time and I may try a 2.7 clutch.
DEFINITELY have them replace the rear mail seal, too - Do this whether it needs it, or not, when replacing a clutch !! :!:
They are easy and cheap - Once the trans is out of the way while doing the clutch, it makes sense to change it.

I always specify the 'high-mileage' variety of rear main seal.


- Nick